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    re: Snowden embraces American flag in WIRED photo shoot[W:511]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    That is not accurate.
    and there we have it. a real disagreement. i love progress.

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    re: Snowden embraces American flag in WIRED photo shoot[W:511]

    Quote Originally Posted by bg85 View Post
    i've always thought the NSA spied on whoever the NSA wanted to spy on.
    That is absolutely incorrect. All intelligence agencies fall under the purview of executive order 12333.

    http://www.archives.gov/federal-regi...der/12333.html
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    re: Snowden embraces American flag in WIRED photo shoot[W:511]

    Quote Originally Posted by bg85 View Post
    and there we have it. a real disagreement. i love progress.
    NSA operates under significant, powerful legal and policy constraints.
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    re: Snowden embraces American flag in WIRED photo shoot[W:511]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    And they do - Snowden and Wiki Leaks have put a light on the illegality of our governments doings and there's no putting that toothpaste back in the tube.
    Yeah see...no they don't.
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    re: Snowden embraces American flag in WIRED photo shoot[W:511]

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    That is absolutely incorrect. All intelligence agencies fall under the purview of executive order 12333.

    Executive Orders
    and you disagree that it was common knowledge that our intelligence agencies might sometimes operate outside the executive order? i'd argue that anyone who applied to the NSA is going to be the type of person who believes we have a right to spy on anyone we deem to be a threat.

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    re: Snowden embraces American flag in WIRED photo shoot[W:511]

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Yeah see...no they don't.

    Uh yeah... like yes they did. See the ACLU is suing them over it. It's one of the things the right and the left mostly agree on.

    NSA Spied On Five Politically Active American Citizens, The Intercept Reports
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    re: Snowden embraces American flag in WIRED photo shoot[W:511]

    Quote Originally Posted by bg85 View Post
    and you disagree that it was common knowledge that our intelligence agencies might sometimes operate outside the executive order? i'd argue that anyone who applied to the NSA is going to be the type of person who believes we have a right to spy on anyone we deem to be a threat.
    ...do you know anyone who works or has worked at NSA? Any intelligence agency? Military intelligence?
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    re: Snowden embraces American flag in WIRED photo shoot[W:511]

    Quote Originally Posted by bg85 View Post
    and you disagree that it was common knowledge that our intelligence agencies might sometimes operate outside the executive order? i'd argue that anyone who applied to the NSA is going to be the type of person who believes we have a right to spy on anyone we deem to be a threat.
    No one operates outside 12333.
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    re: Snowden embraces American flag in WIRED photo shoot[W:511]

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    ...do you know anyone who works or has worked at NSA? Any intelligence agency? Military intelligence?
    Why? Is that a requirement?
    Doesn't everyone have an uncle or family member who is a spy with the CIA, NSA or the like on the interwebz?
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    re: Snowden embraces American flag in WIRED photo shoot[W:511]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Uh yeah... like yes they did. See the ACLU is suing them over it. It's one of the things the right and the left mostly agree on.

    NSA Spied On Five Politically Active American Citizens, The Intercept Reports
    No, the ACLU thinks something. That doesn't make it true.
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