This IS NOT how intelligence operations can be undertaken if you want them to be effective.Second, we are represented by our members of Congress and they cannot be held accountable for their decisions unless we're broadly informed of the decisions that they've made on our behalf.
I feel like you really don't understand the nature of intelligence operations. I mean...you do know that they depend upon secrecy, yes?If the Congress, or the judiciary, decides to grant sweeping powers to the executive branch to vacuum up our personal information into government databases, we have the right to be informed about that. That you don't think so is the best example yet of why I'm glad Snowden leaked what he did, because obviously those in the intelligence community have nothing but contempt for the public and their rights to privacy.
All that they had...Verizon handed over all call data - all of it.
That's all you ever had anyway. NSA has the technology, as does GCHQ, DSD, CSE, and GCSB, of course. So does 3DGSD/MSS, FSB, DGSE, Mossad, etc. The only thing you ever had, with regards to this, was a pinky promise, and that was only from NSA/Five Eyes. That's it! Government is always going to have a step up on technology. Forever. So what's the difference?Between the U.S. and overseas, and calls made entirely within the U.S. All we have is the NSA's pinky promise about what they'll do with the data already in their possession, and they have a long history of lying when asked about what they're doing, so gosh, I don't know why we don't trust them when they make promises....
In open settings? YES. Again, do you realize that intelligence operations need to be secret in order to be effective or not?Right, the public and Congress should expect the NSA head to lie to them, repeatedly, in testimony. Are you serious?
Am I? Or am I ignoring it as you try to conflate legal operations with illegal?I'll quit here because there is no way for us to meet on this when you're defending the CIA spying on Senators and their staff investigators, removing access to documents, lying about it repeatedly, and, incredibly, after being correctly accused of illegal activity by spying on Senate investigators, instead of admitting it and correcting the problem the CIA filed a criminal complaint against the Senate investigators! If you're willing to defend that, you'll defend anything at all.
You need to ask yourself what you think it is intelligence agencies do, why, and if you support that mission or not. If you don't, who cares what you think?