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    Re: Robin Williams committed suicude.

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    Yeah, well I'm Irish. I can handle 'im.

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    Re: Robin Williams committed suicude.

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    Yeah, well I'm Irish. I can handle 'im.

    But thanks!
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    Re: Robin Williams committed suicude.

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    I was listening to talk radio today where they broached the topic I've never heard of before on this. Heart surgery patients have an astronomically large percent suicide rate being that depression is a side effect of cardiac surgery.

    http://www.medscape.org/viewarticle/564994
    There is also a fairly strong indication that people who have chronic depression, also tend to have cardiovascular disease, due to chemical changes and other related stressors. Emotional stress is extremely hard on your physical wellbeing. It's one of the things which leads me to ask, which came first, the chicken or the egg?
    Does the depression cause physical state conducive to heart disease, or does heart disease have a hand in causing depression. It is difficult for me to make a good guess, because in spite of my intermittent periods of severe depression since my late 30's, I have no indicators of cardiovascular disease- at least none as of now, 20 years later.
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    Re: Robin Williams committed suicude.

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    Right up there with : they're in a better place. I really hate this one. Used to justify all sorts of stuff
    Makes me wonder why, when people point a gun at you, they never say "Don't move or I'll send you to a better place!"
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    Re: Robin Williams committed suicude.

    Wow. Just saw the RW was in the early stages of Parkinsons...

    Robin Williams was struggling with early stages of Parkinson's disease when he died, his wife said. His "sobriety was intact," she said
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    Re: Robin Williams committed suicude.

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    There is also a fairly strong indication that people who have chronic depression, also tend to have cardiovascular disease, due to chemical changes and other related stressors. Emotional stress is extremely hard on your physical wellbeing. It's one of the things which leads me to ask, which came first, the chicken or the egg?
    Does the depression cause physical state conducive to heart disease, or does heart disease have a hand in causing depression. It is difficult for me to make a good guess, because in spite of my intermittent periods of severe depression since my late 30's, I have no indicators of cardiovascular disease- at least none as of now, 20 years later.
    I tend to think the depression comes first because it generally begins in your childhood. Many commentators who know nothing of the subject suggested (in Williams case) that it was the stress of celebrity, etc. because they feel the need for an obvious explanation. But we don't know what went on in his childhood, the sorrows he carried with him, the dark pain in the secret world only he inhabited. It is a lonely disease, but those who seek help will soon learn that it is a disease, and that they are not alone.

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    Re: Robin Williams committed suicude.

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    Anything major like that will affect you in weird ways. My husband had a stroke in January, and it has affected his demeanor. He's always been just funny, and laid-back. Now he loses his temper at the drop of a hat. The neurologist said that is normal, and should go away eventually.
    Wow. My friend who is only in his mid thirties had a stroke year before last. He said it made him really angry when it was happening. Don't know how much it changed his overall demeanor.
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    Re: Robin Williams committed suicude.

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    There is also a fairly strong indication that people who have chronic depression, also tend to have cardiovascular disease, due to chemical changes and other related stressors. Emotional stress is extremely hard on your physical wellbeing. It's one of the things which leads me to ask, which came first, the chicken or the egg?
    Does the depression cause physical state conducive to heart disease, or does heart disease have a hand in causing depression. It is difficult for me to make a good guess, because in spite of my intermittent periods of severe depression since my late 30's, I have no indicators of cardiovascular disease- at least none as of now, 20 years later.
    With robin I'd venture to guess that perhaps the drug binges in the 70's and 80's might have weakened his cardiovascular system to where stress and such would have a greater impact on it maybe... And then cardio breakdown and depression. I got really down when I had a sever bout with a kidney stone that had me tied up for about a month waiting on surgery. I began to get agorophbic and depressed. And also pissed because Im a pretty fit guy and I was angry that my body was letting me down.
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    Re: Robin Williams committed suicude.

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    With robin I'd venture to guess that perhaps the drug binges in the 70's and 80's might have weakened his cardiovascular system to where stress and such would have a greater impact on it maybe... And then cardio breakdown and depression. I got really down when I had a sever bout with a kidney stone that had me tied up for about a month waiting on surgery. I began to get agorophbic and depressed. And also pissed because Im a pretty fit guy and I was angry that my body was letting me down.
    This is what a physician told me that people who self medicate actually make their depression worse, because they do physical damage to their bodies and brains.
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    Re: Robin Williams committed suicude.

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    This is what a physician told me that people who self medicate actually make their depression worse, because they do physical damage to their bodies and brains.
    It makes sense. Especially the long term effects that abuse of speed would have on the cardiovascular system.
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