Originally Posted by ChomskyOriginally Posted by OrphanSlug
Greatness lies not in being strong, but in the right use of strength - Henry Ward Beecher
Baby sister, I was born game and I intend to go out that way - Rooster Cogburn
It is impossible to understand the mind of someone focused on suicide if you have not been there, or have not been significantly connected to someone who has been there. Suicide is completely contradictory to one of our basic instincts: survival and self-preservation. The mindset is really like this: one is in such emotional/existential pain that the ending of that pain is so primary as the degree of that pain is so unbearable, that violating the basic instinct of survival and self-preservation not only becomes possible, but feels necessary. The pain overtakes EVERYTHING.
I did my graduate thesis on suicide and have treated hundreds of suicidal patients, both in thought, and those who have actually had attempts. It is a very difficult issue to treat, as the level of depression that one must be in to get to this place is massive. It is imperative that one be in GOOD treatment in order to recover from this, and in many cases, one may need to be somewhere that provides monitored safety.
One thing I've learned. If someone says something about suicide, no matter how light, ALWAYS take them seriously.
"Never fear. Him is here" - Captain Chaos (Dom DeLuise), Cannonball Run
Mace Windu: Then our worst fears have been realized. We must move quickly if the Jedi Order is to survive.
In 1936 my mother's uncle (my grandfather's brother) took his mother's car and plugged the exhaust somehow and killed himself. My mother's cousin was only 4 at the time. I'm close to her to this day. She doesn't remember her father at all but she knows he obviously had mental illness, and she (my aunt/first cousin once removed who I call my "Aunt") also has mental illness to some degree. It's very sad, and very real.
Such an awful disease that doesn't get the attention it deserves. It impacts more than just the person. It impacts everyone the person knows.
Some interesting points I have read in the last 24 hours about how we are mourning the loss. Someone in the Mental Health field pointed this out (paraphrase):
"When ever you hear a person refer to a suicide as the person is 'now at peace' or that they are now 'free' just stop for a minute and contemplate how this sounds to a person who is currently contemplating suicide."
I have to admit it gave me pause, and I have probably used both of those phrases in the last 48 hours.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish and he stops voting for the Free Fish party.
Wasn't say a thing, but...
Russell Brand: Robin WilliamsRobin Williams could have tapped anyone in the western world on the shoulder and told them he felt down and they would have told him not to worry, that he was great, that they loved him. He must have known that. He must have known his wife and kids loved him, that his mates all thought he was great, that millions of strangers the world over held him in their hearts, a hilarious stranger that we could rely on to anarchically interrupt, the all-encompassing sadness of the world. Today Robin Williams is part of the sad narrative that we used to turn to him to disrupt.