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    Re: [RIP]Robin Williams Dead at 63 [W:194]

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    Re: Robin Williams committed suicude.

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    Try following the conversation.

    And working on your sense of humor, while you're at it.
    There is no humor in someone losing their child.

    You are classless and rude.
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    Re: [RIP]Robin Williams Dead at 63 [W:194]

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    So? That doesn't bother me at all. Limbaugh is a stain on the fabric of this country, and has been for years. This country was always able to speak politely about politics, but since Limbaugh entered the fray, it's like the spectators at a golf match with Happy Gilmore. Nobody cares anymore about the truth. They just want to hear what makes them feel good, and he's the one to do it. I make no apologies for anything I say about him, and if brings me down to his level, then so be it. At least I know I can rise up out of the muck. He won't. He'll stay there, because that's where his listeners want him to be.
    Whatever you say. Rush Limbaugh can often make some good points but this time he was way off base.

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    Re: [RIP]Robin Williams Dead at 63 [W:194]

    It is impossible to understand the mind of someone focused on suicide if you have not been there, or have not been significantly connected to someone who has been there. Suicide is completely contradictory to one of our basic instincts: survival and self-preservation. The mindset is really like this: one is in such emotional/existential pain that the ending of that pain is so primary as the degree of that pain is so unbearable, that violating the basic instinct of survival and self-preservation not only becomes possible, but feels necessary. The pain overtakes EVERYTHING.

    I did my graduate thesis on suicide and have treated hundreds of suicidal patients, both in thought, and those who have actually had attempts. It is a very difficult issue to treat, as the level of depression that one must be in to get to this place is massive. It is imperative that one be in GOOD treatment in order to recover from this, and in many cases, one may need to be somewhere that provides monitored safety.

    One thing I've learned. If someone says something about suicide, no matter how light, ALWAYS take them seriously.
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    Re: Robin Williams committed suicude.

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    I used to be that way too, Tres. I would get so pissed, and just rail against the person for being so selfish. I never really thought about them being mentally ill, until somebody here talked about it, at length. I don't remember who committed suicide, but it pissed me right off. They had families that loved them, and they just gave up. Suicide doesn't hurt the person who does it, it hurts the people who are left behind. But then I started looking at it as a true mental illness, and I think differently. I still don't understand 100%, but at least I am not furious with him like I would have been before. I just feel sorry for him. I feel more sorry for his family, but still...
    Well said Superflygirl. I know someone whose father hung himself in his garage when he (my friend) was 12. 40 years later he still hurts from it, as do his mother and siblings. I talked to him once about it, years ago, and that's exactly what he said - that it hurt the people his father left behind. Permanently.

    In 1936 my mother's uncle (my grandfather's brother) took his mother's car and plugged the exhaust somehow and killed himself. My mother's cousin was only 4 at the time. I'm close to her to this day. She doesn't remember her father at all but she knows he obviously had mental illness, and she (my aunt/first cousin once removed who I call my "Aunt") also has mental illness to some degree. It's very sad, and very real.

    Such an awful disease that doesn't get the attention it deserves. It impacts more than just the person. It impacts everyone the person knows.

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    Re: Robin Williams committed suicude.

    Some interesting points I have read in the last 24 hours about how we are mourning the loss. Someone in the Mental Health field pointed this out (paraphrase):

    "When ever you hear a person refer to a suicide as the person is 'now at peace' or that they are now 'free' just stop for a minute and contemplate how this sounds to a person who is currently contemplating suicide."

    I have to admit it gave me pause, and I have probably used both of those phrases in the last 48 hours.
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    Re: Robin Williams committed suicude.

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Some interesting points I have read in the last 24 hours about how we are mourning the loss. Someone in the Mental Health field pointed this out (paraphrase):

    "When ever you hear a person refer to a suicide as the person is 'now at peace' or that they are now 'free' just stop for a minute and contemplate how this sounds to a person who is currently contemplating suicide."

    I have to admit it gave me pause, and I have probably used both of those phrases in the last 48 hours.
    Especially considering that those who attempted suicide and failed usually ended up regretting it.
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    Re: Robin Williams committed suicude.

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    There is no humor in someone losing their child.

    You are classless and rude.
    As if it's so classy and polite to tell someone to "try reading comprehension.'
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    Re: Robin Williams committed suicude.

    Live at the Roxbury. He was flying high....

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    Re: Robin Williams committed suicude.

    Wasn't say a thing, but...

    Robin Williams could have tapped anyone in the western world on the shoulder and told them he felt down and they would have told him not to worry, that he was great, that they loved him. He must have known that. He must have known his wife and kids loved him, that his mates all thought he was great, that millions of strangers the world over held him in their hearts, a hilarious stranger that we could rely on to anarchically interrupt, the all-encompassing sadness of the world. Today Robin Williams is part of the sad narrative that we used to turn to him to disrupt.
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