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Oh Gawd! Pretty much nothing has been confirmed. It is all pretty much just what's been reported.
The Officer shot through the door. Reported. Do you have anything that refutes that?
Going for the Officers gun/attacking reported.
You don't want to believe what has been reported, fine, then you really have nothing to discuss.
I can ask you similar questions. Do you want to believe what is reported? Because YOU KNOW that what is reported doesn't mean it is true. Look at what MSNBC did with the audio in the Trayvon case. Or ANY details from mass shootings. Just because it is reported doesn't mean it is fact.
What I want to know are FACTS. How many witnesses? There is no dash cam footage (I found that out earlier). How many shots fired? Because you can't make a claim one way or the other in this case until you know the facts. At any rate...you have to admit that shooting someone who is unarmed warrants VERY close scrutiny.
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While all facts have not been reported, this is pretty much fact.
Not confirmed by LE, sure? Not confirmed, by what is known? Nonsense.
This from four days ago.
The slain teenager and a friend were “accused of stealing gum from the store or some sort of cigarettes,” the alderman said.
Protests, looting in streets after teen Michael Brown is fatally shot by police | WTVR.com
So deal with the facts.
Is this confirmed? Is it him? If so...fine. He is a criminal. Doesn't give law enforcement the grounds to kill him though.
And I am giving you that it certainly does APPEAR to be him. But unless confirmed it is irrelevant, and even if 100% confirmed it is still not that important. All it means is that he is a dead criminal. My ONLY concern is that the shooting is justified. You can't have cops shooting unarmed people and NOT investigate them.
Spare everybody you getting personal.
It is uncalled for.
You missed the point. I was asking if you really think that it matters if he is a crip? Wannabees flash gang signs all the time. It is that BS get rich or die trying culture that is so glamorized in the inner city. Just look at a few ghetto kids facebooks. It is hilarious in a sad and pathetic kind of way. Flashing gang signs does not make one a gangsta. It just makes one...as you correctly stated...a dumb SOB.
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18 year old adult.
Flashing crip sign.
It is far more likely that he knows the unwritten rules and isn't flashing because he is a wannabe.
But you are ignoring that I do make for exception.
I am not ignoring it. I am merely stating that gang signs do NOT make one a gangbanger. All we know is he flashed gang signs in a few pictures. That also doesn't mean he should be shot. It has no bearing on the case.
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Pretending makes one a punk, he engaged ion actions that made him a thug.
Engaging in petty BS crimes doesn't make one a thug. It makes one petty BS...or a punk. Doesn't make this kid a hardcore gangbanger. At best you got him on stealing gum...real hardcore.
But Trayvon. Starting a fight? He wasnt a gang member. He was a punk 17 year old who wanted to try and be bobby badass. He stole jewlery (allegedly). His crimes were nothing more than petty BS crimes too. That doesn't make him a thug. It made him a punk. Tell me you don't think you could have kicked Trayvons ass? He was a punk kid. He needed an ass kicking, but he picked the wrong guy and got shot.
See. There is no commonality here.
As far as I am concerned, pretending is pretending. Engaging in actual actions is the determining factor.
Sure if his actions are home invasions and gangbanging dope slinging kind of crimes. But neither one of these people were doing anything but petty BS crimes. Do you call someone who steals things a thug? Or a thief?
Yes, with no facts to support such defense and actual facts against such defense.
Sorry. That was a typo on my part. It was meant to state I'm not defending the kid. I think that might make the next few sentences more clear. Like I said...all I give a crap about is whether or not this cop did the right thing. Because you know we have plenty of MORON cops in this country.
And if this kid reached in and tried to grab the cops gun...I would PREFER him to be dead.
But if this cop panicked and shot an unarmed gum stealing punk...rather than tasing him and arresting him...he shouldn't be protected.