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Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

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Lutherf said:
That makes sense. After all, if one black person does something the others just fall in behind, right?
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Marginalized people tend to stick together because they feel they are the only one's who support their cause.
 
Thorgasm said:
Marginalized people tend to stick together because they feel they are the only one's who support their cause.
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Therein lies their unfixable problem. They marginalize themselves collectively by completely failing their children in every possible manner. They indoctrinate victimization and marginalization as a way to cope and explain their own guilt and failures.

There's literally nothing white America can do for them that hasn't already been done. And when some people - white and black - seize upon that reality and get black Americans to think, vote, and act in lockstep, this is the result you get.

The only answer is family and REAL education, not the political rubbish they consume at school.
 
Thorgasm said:
So there can't be a legitimate reason why they don't apply or run for office?
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As the old saying goes - "if you don't participate, you have no right to bitch about the outcome". Those who hold positions of authority and elective office is entirely irrelevant to the incident at issue here and is only relevant as a false justification for perceived inequality of access and outcome.
 
Cryptic said:
This source says the police officer approached them because they were walking in the middle of the street. Things went down hill from there.
Shooting of Michael Brown - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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You really should read your own link before posting it...From your Wiki article:

"Brown was allegedly involved in a felony strong arm robbery of a box of Swisher Sweets cigars at a convenience store prior to his death."

So please don't try to paint this as some kind of young man that was just minding his own business and the cop just decided to harass him....That is simply not the case.
 
Erod said:
Therein lies their unfixable problem. They marginalize themselves collectively by completely failing their children in every possible manner. They indoctrinate victimization and marginalization as a way to cope and explain their own guilt and failures.

There's literally nothing white America can do for them that hasn't already been done. And when some people - white and black - seize upon that reality and get black Americans to think, vote, and act in lockstep, this is the result you get.

The only answer is family and REAL education, not the political rubbish they consume at school.
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Saying it is unfixable is unhelpful.
 
Thorgasm said:
When I ask you what you think, it is not a rhetorical question.

I said the mayor ran unopposed. That doesn't mean that the black community voted for him in majority. They may have stayed home instead of voting.

I suspect the community feels marginalized and therefore acts accordingly.
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It's also quite possible the white mayor was seen as doing a good job. There was a young lady, black, interviewed on CNN this morning who indicated that she was newly moved into the neighbourhood and found it was safe. She also noted that she'd been told by neighbours that there had been a number of burglaries, etc. and the community was happy because the police were doing more patrols in the area trying to discourage crime.

That's anecdotal, but that doesn't sound like a community in fear of authority and in fear of the police or a community that feels marginalized and unsupported by the powers in control.
 
Thorgasm said:
Are you saying that blacks aren't qualified?
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No not at all.

You are assuming if a black ran the blacks would automatically vote for him.

Maybe the white Mayor was the best man for the job.
 
Thorgasm said:
Care to back that up?
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Im sorry, but my personal real life experiences of two Iraq Deployments 2003 and 2004/05 aren't "documented" on the interwebz with some "link" to support my claim as people often ask for on here.

So take it or leave it. It happened with regularity.
 
Erod said:
I mean it's unfixable from anyone outside of their own communities. They have to take it from here.
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It's all their fault then?

See why they feel marginalized?
 
Caine said:
Im sorry, but my personal real life experiences of two Iraq Deployments 2003 and 2004/05 aren't "documented" on the interwebz with some "link" to support my claim as people often ask for on here.

So take it or leave it. It happened with regularity.
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I thought you might post the rules of engagement or something. Experts on TV that I have seen say otherwise.
 
I wanted also to note that it appears that spokespeople and relatives/friends of the "victim" here have appeared on television a number of times indicating that they don't support the riots. looting, violence and that they support the police and authorities investigating this incident "the right way". In my view, these are the people who should be getting the publicity and community support and not the lawless animals who simply want an excuse to cause havoc.
 
Erod said:
Please do the honors, sir.
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Unfortunately I can't. Its pulling teeth to link to a story on a Droid phone.

Imagine the headlines. " Police Kill the Suspect of a Strong Arm robbery after the suspect struggled with a Police Officer "

A little different than " Police Murder unarmed Gentle Giant for no good reason "
 
CanadaJohn said:
I wanted also to note that it appears that spokespeople and relatives/friends of the "victim" here have appeared on television a number of times indicating that they don't support the riots. looting, violence and that they support the police and authorities investigating this incident "the right way". In my view, these are the people who should be getting the publicity and community support and not the lawless animals who simply want an excuse to cause havoc.
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No one is supporting the rioters/looters. Please be honest.
 
Caine said:
Im sorry, but my personal real life experiences of two Iraq Deployments 2003 and 2004/05 aren't "documented" on the interwebz with some "link" to support my claim as people often ask for on here.

So take it or leave it. It happened with regularity.
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How dare you not have computer links to your memories and personal experiences.
 
Thorgasm said:
I thought you might post the rules of engagement or something. Experts on TV that I have seen say otherwise.
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Such restrictive rules of engagement as were enacted near the later years of the Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts were not in place during the earlier years.

Adding to that... a "rule of engagement" is just that... a rule. It is not any evidence that said rule is being followed 100% of the time.
 
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