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Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

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Wiggen said:
When people are desperate, they turn to the only venue for them to be heard. This statistic tells you everything you need to know about Ferguson, Missouri. The place is 70% African American and out of its 53 cops, exactly 3 are black.
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So is it more important to have good, competent cops or to have a police force that is composed, racially, equivalent to the local demographic without regard to competence?

If, in a 70% black precinct, only 1% of the applicants for the police force are black should local blacks simply be conscripted to become cops or should the size of the police force be reduced until racial equivalency is met by willing applicants?
 
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NIMBY said:
Which is why you responded to my post.
Right-wing hate is out of control on this thread and you actually have zero grievance .
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Right wing hate?

You have to in the right wing to know looting and causing damage is wrong?

As a matter of fact, I haven't seen anything from the right wing here.

This discussion boils down to law abiding citizens against criminals.

Which side do you fall on?
 
Wiggen said:
Well, we 'libbos' tend to support blacks. Makes us automatically hate-worthy. After all, we're the ones that elected a black President. And got the Civil rights passed. Anybody actually think that proposal would pass today's House of Representatives? Not a frickin' chance.
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No, you don't. You want to keep them right where they are and oppressed, that way you can promise them "social justice" and they'll keep voting democrat. You certainly don't want them to reach parity and become mainstream. You don't have the votes to elect a president on your own, independents and republicans jumped the fence for that to happen. Same with the Civil Rights Act. In fact you'd be best to educate yourself and look at the vote tallies by party on that one.
 
Wiggen said:
When people are desperate, they turn to the only venue for them to be heard. This statistic tells you everything you need to know about Ferguson, Missouri. The place is 70% African American and out of its 53 cops, exactly 3 are black.
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Those that are listening are saying that violence and destruction of other innocent citizens property and lives is detrimental to their plight. I'm not sure where the desperation comes from it's been 4 days - the legal system may take up to a year or longer to wade through this. Continued violence is counterproductive.
 
Imagine if this were a left-wing city police force and a right-wing TEA-partier killed.
2nd amendment gang-bangers would want the same military equipment that Ferguson police thugs have.
You 2A people say this EVERY time .
 
NIMBY said:
All I've seen from you and your right-wing buddies on this thread is hate.
It becomes you as usual .
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All you see is hate because all you do is hate.
 
Ockham said:
Those that are listening are saying that violence and destruction of other innocent citizens property and lives is detrimental to their plight. I'm not sure where the desperation comes from it's been 4 days - the legal system may take up to a year or longer to wade through this. Continued violence is counterproductive.
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Yes, it is.

but, it's a great opportunity to get that new flat screen without having to give up any drug money.
 
NIMBY said:
Imagine if this were a left-wing city police force and a right-wing TEA-partier killed.
2nd amendment gang-bangers would want the same military equipment that Ferguson police thugs have.
You 2A people say this EVERY time .
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Yeah, because we saw widespread riots when Randy Weaver's wife and son were shot. Oh wait, we didn't? Then you must be proven wrong by reality.
 
Lutherf said:
So one day, as you're standing on the corner, a guy comes up and kicks you in the nuts.

The next day you're standing on the corner and a guy walks up and kicks you in the nuts.

The third day you're standing on the corner and, sure as hell, a guy comes up and kicks you in the nuts.

On the fourth day are you still going to stand there while a guy walks up to you?
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if i am shackled to the ground with five other people and the man kicks me in the nuts every day, that would be a more accurate scenario.
 
VanceMack said:
Thats all well and good but it doesnt really answer the question. If you are citing a statistic the number of stops and searches, then you have to identify WHY the searches are being conducted and you have to look at ALL of the statistics. Unless you are just trying to score a cheap and insignificant point. Jobs may be a great answer to solving the problems of poverty, but thats not really the purview of law enforcement. Their job is designed more to serve and protect against violent crimes. So...who is more likely to commit violent crimes in Fergusen? It 'matters'. If your point is that blacks are searched in vehicle stops at a 2-1 rate, then you also have to ask at what percentage are blacks more likely to commit crimes and why are they being stopped and searched.

It MAY very well be just because the cops are all racist. Or, there MAY be a reason.
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I never said nor implied racism.
 
I entered the thread due to the unmitigated hate and racism coming from you and your usual band of haters and racists .
clownboy said:
All you see is hate because all you do is hate.
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NIMBY said:
I entered the thread due to the unmitigated hate and racism coming from you and your usual band of haters and racists .
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Ahh, so you could see nothing but hate and felt duty bound to do your best to add to it. Right.
 
You're one of the few righties in this thread I have any respect for Ockham, whether it's reciprocated or not.
This is because you take heat from both sides in trying to find a solution.
I credit this to your being military and hope you continue, slam me or whatever .
Ockham said:
Those that are listening are saying that violence and destruction of other innocent citizens property and lives is detrimental to their plight. I'm not sure where the desperation comes from it's been 4 days - the legal system may take up to a year or longer to wade through this. Continued violence is counterproductive.
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It's all your kind deserves.
Try growing up and acting like Ockham .
clownboy said:
Ahh, so you could see nothing but hate and felt duty bound to do your best to add to it. Right.
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Ockham said:
Missouri police shooting of teen Michael Brown sparks protests, looting, vandalism - CBS News


The looting and violence is in response to the shooting of Michael Brown when, according to police, Brown and another man assaulted the police officer, there was a struggle and shots were fired, ultimately killing Brown. The two men in the alleged assault were not armed. However, a different account was provided by one Dorian Johnson, who says the struggle was initiated by the police officer, who assaulted Brown - Brown broke free and started to run when the police officer then shot Brown.

The point of this post is NOT justifying or dismissing the shooting which was the flashpoint of the violence (though I am resigned to the fact it will devolve into that at some point) but I'm more interested in why looting is the preferred method of showing distrust and dissatisfaction with police actions, when the owners of these stores which were broken into have absolutely NOTHING to do with the police shooting. Why is looting and destroying innocent people's livelihoods the preferred method of action in these circumstances? We see this time and time again - and I'm reminded of the 1992 So.Central LA riots.
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So let's cut to the chase. Is there a video anywhere of the shooting. I could careless about the looting and rioting silliness.
 
Yet you still whine about Randy Weaver, showing your residual hate is still festuring .
clownboy said:
Yeah, because we saw widespread riots when Randy Weaver's wife and son were shot. Oh wait, we didn't? Then you must be proven wrong by reality.
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NIMBY said:
It's all your kind deserves.
Try growing up and acting like Ockham .
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You don't seem to realize your hate filled rants are going to be here, for all to see, for as long as the board survives. So go ahead, continue on with the hate.
 
Yours entered first and have been adequately addressed for all to see .
clownboy said:
You don't seem to realize your hate filled rants are going to be here, for all to see, for as long as the board survives. So go ahead, continue on with the hate.
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Mason66 said:
If a community is raised to think the police are the enemy, how many of those people will want to join with that enemy?
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You act as if you know this community pretty in depth. I'd be willing to bet you don't.
 
poweRob said:
You act as if you know this community pretty in depth. I'd be willing to bet you don't.
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Do you? Serious question, because if you do, enlighten us please.
 
NIMBY said:
Yours entered first and have been adequately addressed for all to see .
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And I have no problem with that, or my friends, family and employer knowing I'm clownboy. Because I don't do the knee jerk hate rants like you do. Would you like to get back on topic now?
 
clownboy said:
Do you? Serious question, because if you do, enlighten us please.
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Nope. Not at all. Nor do I pretend to know how that entire community was brought up like the poster I quoted did.

But I do know people and am putting my opinion in based on that.
 
So now you want to get back on the topic--as if others aren't--another poor "deflection" card.
clownboy said:
And I have no problem with that, or my friends, family and employer knowing I'm clownboy.
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No one mentioned your name "clownboy" until you did--as has happened in the past with you.
Because I don't do the knee jerk hate rants like you do. Would you like to get back on topic now?
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I watched about 500 or so knee-jerk hate rants on Iphone before I got to my lap-top.
Guess who had many of them ?
 
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