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Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

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Lol. The martyrdom begins. Move over Trayvon. You're about to have a If-I-had-a-son-he-would-look-like brother.




Thorgasm said:
No, thugs in that area belong to gangs and their tats are visible. They also have bling. He's just a poor black man. Unfortunately, reasonable people don't automatically assume that makes for a thug.
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Mr.Nick said:
If a white kid was offed would anyone care?
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If the cop turns out to be black, watch the Libbos scatter like roaches when the light comes on.
 
Excon said:
:doh

Prove it!

Fake gang sign is not a peace or victory sign, nor are they actual gang signs.
Try again.
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Prove it ????

Okay I'm out. Every minute I spend arguing with you I can feel my IQ dropping.
 
rcart76 said:
Find something about his character that was negative.... I mean this shouldn't be hard for a thug right?
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You mean like attacking a cop and going for his gun isn't sufficient?
 
rcart76 said:
I went through 4 pages of pictures and I don't see this made up thug in Michael Brown.


Hey I got a challenge for you.

Find something about his character that was negative.... I mean this shouldn't be hard for a thug right?
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He assaulted a cop and tried to take his gun. There's a big negative for you.
 
rcart76 said:
Prove it ????

Okay I'm out. Every minute I spend arguing with you I can feel my IQ dropping.
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That wasn't your IQ dropping.

But by running, all you are doing is showing that you can't prove what you have asserted.
 
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rcart76 said:
I went through 4 pages of pictures and I don't see this made up thug in Michael Brown.


Hey I got a challenge for you.

Find something about his character that was negative.... I mean this shouldn't be hard for a thug right?
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Find something about his character that was positive first...

rcart76 said:
DA **** !!!

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I have no idea what this means... are you swearing at Cosby or insulting his race?

rcart76 said:
!!!!! They are all the same thing !!!!!!
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No. The are not. Hint: if they are not the same then that means that they are not the same. Different fingers being up means, literally, that they are not the same. Make some gang signs with some thugs that are not the same and see the laughter you get. I have. You should try and learn something about gang signs instead of sounding like you know what the hell you are talking about when you obviously do not.
 
Excon said:
You mean like attacking a cop and going for his gun isn't sufficient?
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:lol: I have to admit that this had me laughing out loud for being spot on... :lol:
 
rcart76 said:
Prove it ????

Okay I'm out. Every minute I spend arguing with you I can feel my IQ dropping.
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There aren't any buses shorter than the short bus... it will still do the pick up.
 
Bodhisattva said:
:lol: I have to admit that this had me laughing out loud for being spot on... :lol:
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I don't know. Maybe that isn't sufficient for him?

Or maybe he had heard another story?
 
Excon said:
I don't know. Maybe that isn't sufficient for him?

Or maybe he had heard another story?
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We can only wait and see...
 
Bodhisattva said:
We can only wait and see...
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Exactly, but it is fun to point out, or ask questions as to what is and isn't known about the claims being made.
 
apdst said:
That's easy to say when it's not your life that's endangered.

One thing's for damn sure, if that boy hadn't attacked the cop and gone for his gun, he wouldn't have been killed.
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So says the cop that shot him.

Witnesses say otherwise.
 
Ockham said:
Which doesn't make much sense since the violent and destructive actions they take have nothing to do with the source - the people they are hurting are just as innocent as the person who was hurt by the police (in this case). It's like saying my dog was run over by a car, so that justifies me breaking into your house and trashing it and stealing your stuff and getting away with it.
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It's not supposed to make sense. It involves the instincts. As Nietzsche would put it, "Dionysian" (primal energies of the lower consciousness), as Freud would put it, the "Id." Same impulses engaged to the effect of enjoyment and excitement in action films like Conan the Barbarian or Predator. In a similar way, horror films tap into our fear to create "thrill."

Underlying assumptions about the nature of reality "envelop" our thoughts and perceptions like a heavy fog. For example, McDonalds as an endless source of cheap hamburgers and chicken sandwiches. In reality, every McDonalds has a limited supply of those food sources. Or, Long John Silvers will always supply the plastic utensils to eat their food with (one day I ordered a meal there and they said they were out of utensils. Employees shrugged at the people who asked how they were supposed to eat their meals without any utensils of any kind).

Similarly, stores are places where you get the items you want, line up behind the counter, and turn over money in exchange for leaving with the item. The "cloud of assumptions" that envelops our thoughts tell us that. But when you take away that "cloud of assumptions", then a store is just a place full of items. From a certain point of view, you don't "have to" put money on the counter or line up anywhere. You can just grab what you want and leave.

When riots break out, the anger within each person rises to the surface to clear away the "cloud of assumptions" that govern our usual behavior, allowing the primal energies of the lower consciousness to take over and displace our ordinary habits and beliefs with violence.

Same reason why atrocities break out during war, like those happening in Iraq right now. The "cloud of assumptions" that makes it difficult to imagine systematically beheading children clears away and is replaced with unrestrained fury that acknowledges no limitations to achieving its goal.

Generally speaking, looters are people who have (at least temporarily) lost belief in the power of the civil superstructure that allows for an orderly safe and existence. The "civilization instincts" that allow them to be a contributing member of society are going haywire.
 
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SMTA said:
So says the cop that shot him.

Witnesses say otherwise.
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yeah, I can't wait to hear the "witnesses" explain why the officer had to pull his gun out in the first place. I guarantee you the explanation wouldn't make sense to a third grader, but people like you will buy it hook, line, sinker.
 
apdst said:
Who are the witnesses?
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The kid with him for one.

I also saw an interview with a woman who was a bystander (according to her).

Means little until the investigation is finished.
 
JoeTrumps said:
yeah, I can't wait to hear the "witnesses" explain why the officer had to pull his gun out in the first place. I guarantee you the explanation wouldn't make sense to a third grader, but people like you will buy it hook, line, sinker.
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I have seen too many bad shoots to take a cops version at face value.
 
JoeTrumps said:
yeah, I can't wait to hear the "witnesses" explain why the officer had to pull his gun out in the first place. I guarantee you the explanation wouldn't make sense to a third grader, but people like you will buy it hook, line, sinker.
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You remember those words, tough guy.
 
Double post. Crappy sig.
 
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SMTA said:
The kid with him for one.

I also saw an interview with a woman who was a bystander (according to her).

Means little until the investigation is finished.
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His partner in crime? Yeah, he wouldn'r lie. Especially since if this is ruled a legal shoot, he could be facing aiding and abetting charges.
 
Ockham said:
Missouri police shooting of teen Michael Brown sparks protests, looting, vandalism - CBS News


The looting and violence is in response to the shooting of Michael Brown when, according to police, Brown and another man assaulted the police officer, there was a struggle and shots were fired, ultimately killing Brown. The two men in the alleged assault were not armed. However, a different account was provided by one Dorian Johnson, who says the struggle was initiated by the police officer, who assaulted Brown - Brown broke free and started to run when the police officer then shot Brown.

The point of this post is NOT justifying or dismissing the shooting which was the flashpoint of the violence (though I am resigned to the fact it will devolve into that at some point) but I'm more interested in why looting is the preferred method of showing distrust and dissatisfaction with police actions, when the owners of these stores which were broken into have absolutely NOTHING to do with the police shooting. Why is looting and destroying innocent people's livelihoods the preferred method of action in these circumstances? We see this time and time again - and I'm reminded of the 1992 So.Central LA riots.
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Time for buisness owners to arm and kill rioters in the act.
 
This sounds made up.


Morality Games said:
It's not supposed to make sense. It involves the instincts. As Nietzsche would put it, "Dionysian" (primal energies of the lower consciousness), as Freud would put it, the "Id." Same impulses engaged to the effect of enjoyment and excitement in action films like Conan the Barbarian or Predator. In a similar way, horror films tap into our fear to create "thrill."

Underlying assumptions about the nature of reality "envelop" our thoughts and perceptions like a heavy fog. For example, McDonalds as an endless source of cheap hamburgers and chicken sandwiches. In reality, every McDonalds has a limited supply of those food sources. Or, Long John Silvers will always supply the plastic utensils to eat their food with (one day I ordered a meal there and they said they were out of utensils. Employees shrugged at the people who asked how they were supposed to eat their meals without any utensils of any kind).

Similarly, stores are places where you get the items you want, line up behind the counter, and turn over money in exchange for leaving with the item. The "cloud of assumptions" that envelops our thoughts tell us that. But when you take away that "cloud of assumptions", then a store is just a place full of items. From a certain point of view, you don't "have to" put money on the counter or line up anywhere. You can just grab what you want and leave.

When riots break out, the anger within each person rises to the surface to clear away the "cloud of assumptions" that govern our usual behavior, allowing the primal energies of the lower consciousness to take over and displace our ordinary habits and beliefs with violence.

Same reason why atrocities break out during war, like those happening in Iraq right now. The "cloud of assumptions" that makes it difficult to imagine systematically beheading children clears away and is replaced with unrestrained fury that acknowledges no limitations to achieving its goal.

Generally speaking, looters are people who have (at least temporarily) lost belief in the power of the civil superstructure that allows for an orderly safe and existence. The "civilization instincts" that allow them to be a contributing member of society are going haywire.
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I am gonna start off by saying I condemn anybody who destroys private property for gain or for payback. It's not called for.

But I will say this. Each side is egging on the other side. Be it the police who told the "mob" to bring it, or the "mob" who did bring it by destroying property. Then police responding by firing tear gas and rubber bullets. I have no problem with tear gas, I have a problem with firing rubber bullets, they are just as lethal as standard 9mm bullets. Seen situations like this many times as a kid visiting family in Northern Ireland, peaceful protest turns into a full blown riot just with a snap of a finger because both sides miscalculate.
 
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