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    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Lmao:

    Sigh:





    You're arguing for the sake of arguing now. Not only do you admit that you can't tell the difference between two people who aren't the same color, you go against matters settled in court. You have a right to defend yourself even from police officers if they're violently assaulting you. Or are you going to argue that you don't?
    You really can't see it can you? I'll bold it for you so you have some hope of understanding the law:

    “When a person, being without fault, is in a place where he has a right to be, is violently assaulted, he may, without retreating, repel by force, and if, in the reasonable exercise of his right of self defense, his assailant is killed, he is justified.” Runyan v. State, 57 Ind. 80; Miller v. State, 74 Ind. 1.
    He (Brown) was not without fault, even the witness admits that. He was not in a place where he had a right to be, again, witness confirms that. There is no self defense argument available here.

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    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

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    Yet you still whine about Randy Weaver, showing your residual hate is still festuring .
    I don't think you understand what the word hate means.

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    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    You really can't see it can you? I'll bold it for you so you have some hope of understanding the law:

    He (Brown) was not without fault, even the witness admits that. He was not in a place where he had a right to be, again, witness confirms that. There is no self defense argument available here.
    Translation: From now on if you reach your destination and decide to walk down the street as millions do everyday, cops are justified in mistreating you and shooting you if you refuse to be mistreated.
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    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    You act as if you know this community pretty in depth. I'd be willing to bet you don't.
    Don't be naive. You know the black community does not cooperate with cops. It is common knowledge.

    Why would i have to know this one community. It is pretty clear from their actions it is true.

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    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Sigh.

    Police Haven't Spoken to the Witness Who Saw the Entire Ferguson Shooting Unfold - The Wire



    Stop it. This is getting embarrassing.



    Well, I don't have half a brain. I have an whole brain and it's telling me that the reason the names weren't released was because cops are held to a different standard than the rest of us.



    Well, I for one am convinced. Except...

    Police Haven't Spoken to the Witness Who Saw the Entire Ferguson Shooting Unfold - The Wire
    Mike Brown Shooting: FBI To Investigate Death Of Missouri Teen While Riots Continue For A Second Night
    FBI looking into possible civil rights violations in Michael Brown shooting - CBS News

    It took the FBI getting involved for the police in Missouri to even be concerned.



    Getting touchy? You're being proven wrong on every single statement you make and still have the nerve to get lippy.
    Once again, yes, Johnson's attorney said that early on, and the press reported it. Of course Johnson had already released a full accounting to the press. And we haven't heard from the police who they have and have not interviewed. Have attorneys ever lied to the police and the press? Oh, but you're sure that's not happening here, right?

    And no, you've proven the whole brain is off the table for you here. When the release of information is deemed to put the subject and/or their family in imminent danger, police don't release the name. That's known by everyone apparently BUT you.

    Your links don't show there was any foot dragging or delay in the investigation.

    That last little gem applies directly to you.

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    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    And the reason is still unknown so there is no justification for shooting.



    And the witnesses are saying the cop attacked Michael Brown. If as a result the cop was hit back, and he shot to defend himself - it's not justified. You don't get to attack someone, the kill them if you're losing the fight.
    People are too quick to dismiss the EYEWITNESS accounts of what happened. In their eyes, since other black people rioted and looted, all black people in the area are incapable of telling the truth. Meanwhile, the officer had a swollen face, so obviously Mr. Brown drug the officer away from his squad car until he was shot the proper amount of times. In fact, the local police did such a perfect job that the Governor gave them tonight off.

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    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Translation: From now on if you reach your destination and decide to walk down the street as millions do everyday, cops are justified in mistreating you and shooting you if you refuse to be mistreated.
    You'll have to at least read some non biased accounts of what we know thus far before you carry on embarrassing yourself. After you do, have a friend who understands court decisions and precedent to explain the decision to you. Have them repeat it until you understand. Then you can come back and apologize.

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    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    If the police force was more representative of the population as a whole, they'd undoubtedly have less reason to protest. My God, this isn't rocket science we're talking about here. Cops generally have an 'us against them' mentality, and when the cops are white and 'them' are black, you have a recipe for stuff like this.
    Why would you think black cops would treat black criminals any different than white cops do?

    Would a female cop go easier on female suspects?

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    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Once again, yes, Johnson's attorney said that early on, and the press reported it. Of course Johnson had already released a full accounting to the press. And we haven't heard from the police who they have and have not interviewed. Have attorneys ever lied to the police and the press? Oh, but you're sure that's not happening here, right?
    You're making up excuses. My statement remains. THEY HAVE NOT SPOKEN TO THE WITNESSES. The account released to the press was done after it was made a fact that the police refused to speak to him. You're not really good at this reading stuff are you?

    And no, you've proven the whole brain is off the table for you here. When the release of information is deemed to put the subject and/or their family in imminent danger, police don't release the name. That's known by everyone apparently BUT you.
    Bull****. Suspects get their names released regardless of the situation. The exception being when they're minors.

    Your links don't show there was any foot dragging or delay in the investigation.
    You're not even reading them are you? They refused to identify witnesses, refused to open a case on possible civil rights violation, gave the officer paid leave etc. All perks of being in a police union.
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    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Once again, yes, Johnson's attorney said that early on, and the press reported it. Of course Johnson had already released a full accounting to the press. And we haven't heard from the police who they have and have not interviewed. Have attorneys ever lied to the police and the press? Oh, but you're sure that's not happening here, right?

    And no, you've proven the whole brain is off the table for you here. When the release of information is deemed to put the subject and/or their family in imminent danger, police don't release the name. That's known by everyone apparently BUT you.

    Your links don't show there was any foot dragging or delay in the investigation.

    That last little gem applies directly to you.
    The police aren't giving any information besides "swollen face". They won't say how many times he was shot. How does that protect the officer and his family?
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