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    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
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    Stop there. The rest is irrelevant. All black people look alike.
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    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Well, in all fairness the looting seems to have died down. However, we continue to see a complete focus on the 2-3 days of violence as opposed to the fact that the riots only began because the entire police department of St. Louis refuses to investigate their own in a transparent manner.
    Bull****. They weren't even allowed time to investigate the event. And "transparent manner"? Ridiculous, details of an investigation remain closed until the investigation is done. The FBI isn't going to be any more of what you seem to consider transparent.

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    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

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    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If you hit a cop, its assault...period. You cant hit a cop jus cause he be dissin u.
    Read my post again and tell me what part of "self defense" depends on "dissing". Again, as I stated if a cop hits you, you have every right to hit them back. It's called self defense. Think I'm wrong?

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    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Stop there. The rest is irrelevant. All black people look alike.
    YOU said it, and I can't help the ugly that lives in YOUR mind.

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    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Well, in all fairness the looting seems to have died down. However, we continue to see a complete focus on the 2-3 days of violence as opposed to the fact that the riots only began because the entire police department of St. Louis refuses to investigate their own in a transparent manner.
    The looting has to die down once most of the best stuff is already stolen.

    How does looting and rioting have anything to do with protesting the actions of the police department?
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    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    No, sorry, I don't work for a bank and I don't work with hedge fund managers, so I never saw that, nor do I know anyone who was looted by them (including myself).

    But of course, this is entirely off topic, isn't it Risky? Or did I stumble into the wrong thread. I thought we were discussing the protests in Missouri.
    We were discussing were discussing the fact that un-normal and un-decent people come in all colors, educations, genders and careers.










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    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Bull****. They weren't even allowed time to investigate the event. And "transparent manner"? Ridiculous, details of an investigation remain closed until the investigation is done. The FBI isn't going to be any more of what you seem to consider transparent.
    Ridiculous details? Like...

    1. The police didn't talk to witnesses
    2. The name of the officer in question wasn't released
    3. They only looked into the matter when a big fuss was made

    Right. Ridiculous details. All of which would have been standard procedure if someone had killed a cop.
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    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Read my post again and tell me what part of "self defense" depends on "dissing". Again, as I stated if a cop hits you, you have every right to hit them back. It's called self defense. Think I'm wrong?
    Based upon your bad reading of the decision and does not substantiate your claim that resisting arrest or detention equates to self defense.

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    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    The melodrama level in these threads is getting stifling but I'll play.

    If the cop has a swollen face that might be an indication that he was attacked.
    And the reason is still unknown so there is no justification for shooting.

    It doesn't explain why he was attacked or even that Brown caused the injury but it should be part of the investigation. It's also my understanding that there were two kids involved when this whole thing went down so if the cop was being attacked and he's not the one that started the incident then yes, shooting may well have been warranted.
    And the witnesses are saying the cop attacked Michael Brown. If as a result the cop was hit back, and he shot to defend himself - it's not justified. You don't get to attack someone, the kill them if you're losing the fight.
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