Page 71 of 120 FirstFirst ... 2161697071727381 ... LastLast
Results 701 to 710 of 1198

Thread: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

  1. #701
    Sage
    polgara's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    NE Ohio
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 09:43 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    18,337

    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    You are talking about Wall Street, correct? And still they are free and have continued to benefit from their predatory ways and ill-gotten gains.
    Wall Street is supposedly regulated, so what they do is legal, I suppose, but no, they are not exempt. And they are often fined in the millions of dollars when they are "caught", but it hasn't corrected the problem. They apparently feel it's the cost of doing business. I am reminded of the junior executive who, through his actions, ruined one of England's largest and oldest banks recently. Is simple greed at the bottom of things like this, and the situation in Missouri - which ironically is known as the "Show Me" state?

    Greetings, Risky Thicket.

  2. #702
    Sage
    Montecresto's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Last Seen
    03-13-16 @ 11:59 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    24,561

    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    Don't get me wrong, I'm all for freedom, like the ones these guys were demonstrating:

    Attachment 67171372

    Don't we all though want a society ruled by SOME law and order? I'm assuming your not advocating anarchy are you? Where a group of thugs can run up on you or your family and take what they want.



    but do we really want anarchy



    But the same principle applies. As much as you may want to hero worship about a bunch of looters that wouldn't hesitate to come in and take your stuff... no matter what your views are. Face it, these people are just a bunch of thugs looking to make a quick buck. At least with the Rodney King deal, the people had the common sense to wait for a verdict.
    Certainly. I'm all about law and order, I can't stand it when these idiots ruin perfect opportunities for the public to stand up and say hell no to police excess by destroying and stealing private or public property, and I have no sympathy for these folk. But setting that aside, I do not want to see our police, the same guys we all interact with in various ways on a daily basis looking and behaving like our military, and every inch we cede will be an inch lost. As I said earlier, if a situation exceeds the limitations of law enforcement to respond adequately, then bring in the NG, and as soon as the situation is secure, put them back away.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

  3. #703
    Sage
    lizzie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    between two worlds
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    28,581

    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Is simple greed at the bottom of things like this, and the situation in Missouri - which ironically is known as the "Show Me" state?
    I think they can rename it the "Showing my ass" state.
    "God is the name by which I designate all things which cross my path violently and recklessly, all things which alter my plans and intentions, and change the course of my life, for better or for worse."
    -C G Jung

  4. #704
    Sewer Rat
    Risky Thicket's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Last Seen
    Today @ 04:54 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    23,802

    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Do you recall any educated, black, professional women or men rioting in America or anywhere else?
    Seriously, at this point we have no way of knowing.










    "When Faith preaches Hate, Blessed are the Doubters." - Amin Maalouf

    When trouble arises and things look bad, there is always one individual who perceives a solution and is willing to take command. Very often, that person is crazy. ~Dave Barry



  5. #705
    Sage
    polgara's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    NE Ohio
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 09:43 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    18,337

    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    What happens is that some people have been taught from birth that they are entitled to certain things and that when they don't get those things it's because they are being oppressed. These people have been raised to be victims of society and that sense of victimization is reinforced every day by the news, the politicians, the community organizers and other opportunists who figure that they can make a buck by exploiting their vulnerability.

    When someone in a position like that sees an opportunity to exact a little revenge on society for all their ills they take it. They may as well take it too because at that point they have nothing to lose. Sure, they might get arrested but that isn't really a problem because they were never going to get a good job anyway. Furthermore, if they do get arrested that just confirms that they are victims of racial or ethnic bias like they have always been told.
    Very well said!

    And the media feeds that by comparing statistics about the higher numbers of non-whites currently in prison, and how unfair it is! Have we truly reached the bottom of the barrel on excuses used to justify current events?

    Gre4etings, Lutherf.

  6. #706
    Sewer Rat
    Risky Thicket's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Last Seen
    Today @ 04:54 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    23,802

    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Certainly. I'm all about law and order, I can't stand it when these idiots ruin perfect opportunities for the public to stand up and say hell no to police excess by destroying and stealing private or public property, and I have no sympathy for these folk. But setting that aside, I do not want to see our police, the same guys we all interact with in various ways on a daily basis looking and behaving like our military, and every inch we cede will be an inch lost. As I said earlier, if a situation exceeds the limitations of law enforcement to respond adequately, then bring in the NG, and as soon as the situation is secure, put them back away.
    What Monte said! My position exactly.

    We will likely never know the real reason it has taken this long for the governor to replace the cops with the state patrol, but that was a good move. It may have been that the Ferguson mayor and the county police said "We got this to governor" only they didn't have it and at that point it was late in the game.

    I'd love to read the after action report on this. We will never see it, however.










    "When Faith preaches Hate, Blessed are the Doubters." - Amin Maalouf

    When trouble arises and things look bad, there is always one individual who perceives a solution and is willing to take command. Very often, that person is crazy. ~Dave Barry



  7. #707
    Sage
    Lutherf's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Tucson, AZ
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:05 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    24,640

    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    How do you know the bolded as fact?
    For those who have grown up with a victim mentality it is fact. They don't know anything else so, from their perspective, it's all fact. They're like Plato's dude who was chained up in the cave. They only know what is shown to them so that becomes fact and everything else is a lie.

  8. #708
    Sage
    lizzie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    between two worlds
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    28,581

    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    For those who have grown up with a victim mentality it is fact. They don't know anything else so, from their perspective, it's all fact. They're like Plato's dude who was chained up in the cave. They only know what is shown to them so that becomes fact and everything else is a lie.
    What I was asking was how the poster knew (as fact) that cops would not be held accountable for their bad behaviors. Maybe I misunderstood the post I responded to.
    "God is the name by which I designate all things which cross my path violently and recklessly, all things which alter my plans and intentions, and change the course of my life, for better or for worse."
    -C G Jung

  9. #709
    Sage
    Lutherf's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Tucson, AZ
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:05 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    24,640

    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    What I was asking was how the poster knew (as fact) that cops would not be held accountable for their bad behaviors. Maybe I misunderstood the post I responded to.
    I understand. I was kind of assuming that the poster was part of the victimhood crowd so you were giving more credit than I was.

  10. #710
    Sage
    Montecresto's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Last Seen
    03-13-16 @ 11:59 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    24,561

    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    What happens is that some people have been taught from birth that they are entitled to certain things and that when they don't get those things it's because they are being oppressed. These people have been raised to be victims of society and that sense of victimization is reinforced every day by the news, the politicians, the community organizers and other opportunists who figure that they can make a buck by exploiting their vulnerability.

    When someone in a position like that sees an opportunity to exact a little revenge on society for all their ills they take it. They may as well take it too because at that point they have nothing to lose. Sure, they might get arrested but that isn't really a problem because they were never going to get a good job anyway. Furthermore, if they do get arrested that just confirms that they are victims of racial or ethnic bias like they have always been told.
    Residual effects of our past humanitarian abuse thru slavery and ill treatment at least until civil rights act, NOT making excuses, but there are reasons why were seeing things like this.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

Page 71 of 120 FirstFirst ... 2161697071727381 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •