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    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Unarmed protestors exercising their first amendment rights don't throw firebombs and loot businesses. I find that disturbing.
    They do if they are convinced that they are living under police occupation, with no other resort. If they watch their young men being shot down in the street for no apparent reason. If they see a police force that in no way is representative of them. Frustration and anger can make people do things they might not ordinarily do.
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    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    53 cops, of which 50 are white and 3 are black. Policing a population that is 70% African American. Cops generally aren't the most understanding people in the world, and their normal reaction is to shoot first and ask questions later. When the cop is white and the victim black, you get a reaction from people who are convinced the system is rigged against them. That you can't see that makes your lean of 'slightly conservative' to be an understatement.
    How many black people applied to be cops in that city? Is it that they're applying and being rejected - or is it that they don't even want to be cops?

    If the normal reaction of a cop is to shoot first and ask questions later, why aren't we hearing these stories daily? When was the last instance of a cop shooting an unarmed person - yesterday? Monday? if it's their normal reaction, then why aren't the 900,000 of them who work as cops doing it enough that we hear and read about it daily? Hourly, in fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What's disturbing, is that you think stealing and burning are protected by the 1st Amendment.

    Where were you on the Bundy protests?
    Ted Bundy? He got what he deserved.
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    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    They do if they are convinced that they are living under police occupation, with no other resort. If they watch their young men being shot down in the street for no apparent reason. If they see a police force that in no way is representative of them. Frustration and anger can make people do things they might not ordinarily do.
    Didnt MLK say they exact oppositie, that there is no excuse for violence? That change can be achieved through peaceful protest no matter what your enemy does?

    Returning violence for violence multiplies violence,
    adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars.
    Darkness cannot drive out darkness:
    only light can do that.
    Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that.

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    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    How many black people applied to be cops in that city? Is it that they're applying and being rejected - or is it that they don't even want to be cops?

    If the normal reaction of a cop is to shoot first and ask questions later, why aren't we hearing these stories daily? When was the last instance of a cop shooting an unarmed person - yesterday? Monday? if it's their normal reaction, then why aren't the 900,000 of them who work as cops doing it enough that we hear and read about it daily? Hourly, in fact.
    I didn't say shoot first. I said their normal reaction, due to the fact that they are decked out like combat infantrymen, is to react with far more force than is needed. They are exacerbating the situation in Missouri and I think it's intentional.

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    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Didnt MLK say they exact oppositie, that there is no excuse for violence? That change can be achieved through peaceful protest no matter what your enemy does?
    Yeah, whatever happened to MLK?
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    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    I didn't say shoot first. I said their normal reaction, due to the fact that they are decked out like combat infantrymen, is to react with far more force than is needed. They are exacerbating the situation in Missouri and I think it's intentional.


    Did the National Guard " exacerbate " the situation in South Central in 1992 ?

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    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Yeah, whatever happened to MLK?
    His philosophy caused major change in the country which advanced civil rights.

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    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    They do if they are convinced that they are living under police occupation, with no other resort. If they watch their young men being shot down in the street for no apparent reason. If they see a police force that in no way is representative of them. Frustration and anger can make people do things they might not ordinarily do.
    Perhaps so - that doesn't mean it's anything related to exercising a free speech right. The fact that you would equate the two or justify one as the other is an illustration of faulty logic and a reason why the ignorant and poorly educated consider it their right to do so. Using your logic, if I'm frustrated with my neighbour, I should simply burn his house down or murder him because my irrational frustration gives me justification for acting like a criminal.
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    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    I didn't say shoot first. I said their normal reaction, due to the fact that they are decked out like combat infantrymen, is to react with far more force than is needed. They are exacerbating the situation in Missouri and I think it's intentional.

    Why do Ferguson
    If they don't do it, then it isn't their normal reaction, Wiggen.

    How many blacks applied to the Ferguson police force?

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