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    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Why would police not be approachable? It's not like there isn't an entire major subculture out there that sings about and celebrates killing them. I mean, what regular middle-class joe who brings home $45K a year for a dangerous and difficult job wouldn't find something like that just downright cuddly?




    Now yeah, you need more cops out in troubled neighborhoods, and there needs to be regular person-to-person interaction, and you're right about that. I'm just pointing out that it's not exactly entirely the fault of the police that there is mutual distrust, here.
    Well friction between cops and the public goes down when there is more interaction. Beat cops make more progress in neighborhoods than cops in cars driving through. If you are highly weaponized and decked out in all black military garb... you'd be much less approachable than say... an English Bobby

    I mean, on the streets, especially where authority is viewed as suspect... honestly which would you think is more approachable?

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    If there were problems in the neighborhood people would be more likely to be helpful to those they can approach and work with the police more often if they felt they could approach and trust them. What I'm saying is, you can't police a populace very well without public participation.

    Dumbass sheriff Arpiao down in Phoenix would do well to understand this.
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    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Well friction between cops and the public goes down when there is more interaction. Beat cops make more progress in neighborhoods than cops in cars driving through. If you are highly weaponized and decked out in all black military garb... you'd be much less approachable than say... an English Bobby
    Agreed on both counts. But patrol cops aren't geared up in the riot suits. Those come out when there are, well, riots, or the legitimate threat of violence. When you are in a neighborhood where imminent violence is a very real possibility, you have to be ready for it, or you are only going to be a victim of it, and you'll be no help to anyone (quite the opposite, you'll only demonstrate the power and futility of opposing those who gunned you down).

    If there were problems in the neighborhood people would be more likely to be helpful to those they can approach and work with the police more often if they felt they could approach and trust them. What I'm saying is, you can't police a populace very well without public participation.

    Dumbass sheriff Arpiao down in Phoenix would do well to understand this.
    Sheriff Arpiao keeps getting reelected, indicating he has a pretty good participation with his public, who appear to agree with him.

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    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Sheriff Arpiao keeps getting reelected, indicating he has a pretty good participation with his public, who appear to agree with him.
    He's got a bunch of Yosemite Sams for constituents.
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    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    He's got a bunch of Yosemite Sams for constituents.
    shall I bring out a bunch of derogatory slurs for the populaces that we are discussing the need to patrol in more?

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    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

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    I really could care less what you think. Just saying.
    Likewise.
    Regardless, you still verbalized an absurdly extreme position.
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    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Agreed on both counts. But patrol cops aren't geared up in the riot suits. Those come out when there are, well, riots, or the legitimate threat of violence. When you are in a neighborhood where imminent violence is a very real possibility, you have to be ready for it, or you are only going to be a victim of it, and you'll be no help to anyone (quite the opposite, you'll only demonstrate the power and futility of opposing those who gunned you down).
    My contention is we need more cops on their feet and less in the vehicles just driving by. Be prepared for sure, but until then, be approachable... then the folks will voluntarily tell you where the problems are.

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    Sheriff Arpiao keeps getting reelected, indicating he has a pretty good participation with his public, who appear to agree with him.
    Arpiao is such a dumbass showman/politician. He keeps getting elected by scaring all the old people down there. I lived there for 12 years and I had to move because the street behind my house was EXTREMELY 3rd world. Automatic gunfire every night. Ghetto Buzzards (police helicoptors) flying overhead every night. Finally had to move when a guy was murdered about 50 yards from my front door. He plays like he's tough on illegals. That's his schtick. He orchestrates all these raids on this and that area and arrests in giant groups. Makes him look good. Meanwhile, legal citizens are rounded up because of the way they look and they lose that whole day of work and have to explain to their bosses what happened and pray they don't get fired.

    Then the illegals there were so terrified of being caught and deported that they created a sub-society and would absolutely NEVER cooperate with cops. Crime exploded... because the criminals know these folks won't work with the cops. You can say "so what? they are illegals so let crime happen to them" but that crime spills over big time.
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    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    shall I bring out a bunch of derogatory slurs for the populaces that we are discussing the need to patrol in more?
    That's your choice. I don't think those people see Yosemite Sam as a slur. They are proud of who they are.
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    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    My contention is we need more cops on their feet and less in the vehicles just driving by. Be prepared for sure, but until then, be approachable... then the folks will voluntarily tell you where the problems are.
    I think you're absolutely right that more police interaction is needed to not only get cooperation, but ease tensions... but you really think a cop is should go walking into a hot zone sort of neighborhood? I got shot at once, and I was just delivering papers to the place...

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    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    That's your choice. I don't think those people see Yosemite Sam as a slur. They are proud of who they are.
    You do. That being the point.

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    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    I think you're absolutely right that more police interaction is needed to not only get cooperation, but ease tensions... but you really think a cop is should go walking into a hot zone sort of neighborhood? I got shot at once, and I was just delivering papers to the place...
    Not just all of a sudden. It has to be worked in. You don't just start walking in hot zones. Work the edges. Talk to the folks. Hell knock on doors and introduce yourself. Make the hot zone implode on itself.
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