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    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    For how long though? If you don't have enough police out there to respond to violence, you're inevitably going to see an uptick in crime.

    And I think it really boils down to age at this point. No matter what, if you grew up in the time of segregation, there's probably never going to be a time your going to give a white cop the benefit of the doubt... and that's understandable, if not correct. But for younger people though, who have been around whites a lot more often, I don't think they'd see it as the same. Of course, then you just have the problem of young cops with... as one poster put it... napoleon complexes. But that's another issue though.
    It's a fallacy to think that more cops = less crime. There is a balance for sure but that notion outright isn't really correct.
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    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

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    Don't you think it would be more accurate to say that they don't care about those they believe are criminals or have acted in a criminal way?
    No, I would not.
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    No, I would not.
    Then your position is ridiculous to an extreme. Just saying.
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    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    It's a fallacy to think that more cops = less crime. There is a balance for sure but that notion outright isn't really correct.
    I'm sure there are times when you have excess, and perhaps there are those that can do more with less but I'm not sure how you could argue with the idea that the more cops you have on patrol and that can respond to incidents... I don't know, I'd feel safer. Though if you have stats that show otherwise I'm open to it.

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    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    I'm sure there are times when you have excess, and perhaps there are those that can do more with less but I'm not sure how you could argue with the idea that the more cops you have on patrol and that can respond to incidents... I don't know, I'd feel safer. Though if you have stats that show otherwise I'm open to it.
    The only aspect of it that is true is that more jobs tend to reduce crime. If we took the tact of putting up funds for jobs to reduce crime we'd do better if it weren't jobs of authority over the people because that often creates more friction in society.
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    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Missouri police shooting of teen Michael Brown sparks protests, looting, vandalism - CBS News

    The looting and violence is in response to the shooting of Michael Brown when, according to police, Brown and another man assaulted the police officer, there was a struggle and shots were fired, ultimately killing Brown. The two men in the alleged assault were not armed. However, a different account was provided by one Dorian Johnson, who says the struggle was initiated by the police officer, who assaulted Brown - Brown broke free and started to run when the police officer then shot Brown.

    The point of this post is NOT justifying or dismissing the shooting which was the flashpoint of the violence (though I am resigned to the fact it will devolve into that at some point) but I'm more interested in why looting is the preferred method of showing distrust and dissatisfaction with police actions, when the owners of these stores which were broken into have absolutely NOTHING to do with the police shooting. Why is looting and destroying innocent people's livelihoods the preferred method of action in these circumstances? We see this time and time again - and I'm reminded of the 1992 So.Central LA riots.
    1. Immaturity.
    2. Opportunism.

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    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Which is a division we must work on. It's why I'm so opposed to the militarizing of our police forces. Police need to be approachable. Not intimidating. It's already intimidating enough them just being authority.
    Why would police not be approachable? It's not like there isn't an entire major subculture out there that sings about and celebrates killing them. I mean, what regular middle-class joe who brings home $45K a year for a dangerous and difficult job wouldn't find something like that just downright cuddly?




    Now yeah, you need more cops out in troubled neighborhoods, and there needs to be regular person-to-person interaction, and you're right about that. I'm just pointing out that it's not exactly entirely the fault of the police that there is mutual distrust, here.

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    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    It's a fallacy to think that more cops = less crime. There is a balance for sure but that notion outright isn't really correct.
    More cops correctly employed does. But you have to be out on the street.

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    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    1. Immaturity.
    2. Opportunism.
    I'd say its more the latter. Pretty important to separate those that are peacefully protesting with the opportunistic scumbags that tend to take advantage of situations like this. I hope the peaceful heed the warnings and shut it down at night. Too easy for the douches to intermingle with them and stir up s#*t.

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    re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Then your position is ridiculous to an extreme. Just saying.
    I really could care less what you think. Just saying.
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