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Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

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Like he has any credibility at this point.
Why wouldn't he bw credible? From what I know he handed the investigation over to the county sherriff, and is cooperating with the Feds.

Maybe I am missing something?
 
Why wouldn't he bw credible? From what I know he handed the investigation over to the county sherriff, and is cooperating with the Feds.

Maybe I am missing something?

So that is all he needs to do, eh?
 
Doesn't it seem odd to you that the name of this person isn't released but ... if you killed someone, your face would be plastered the day of on the 6 o'clock news? This is why I don't trust state governments. They shown themselves to be inept and completely incapable of prosecuting local police officers.

The whole thing stinks to high heaven. I hope justice prevails, but I'm not holding my breath.
 
Why wouldn't he bw credible? From what I know he handed the investigation over to the county sherriff, and is cooperating with the Feds.

Maybe I am missing something?

Did he ever get around to interviewing Mr. Brown's friend who was an eyewitness?


BTW, I know you won't concede that you were wrong, but I noticed you ignored my previous post to you.
 
Pure speculation. One fact we do know is that some kind of struggle ensued inside the patrol car. So that alone makes your hypothetical of the cop getting out and grabbing him wrong period.

Really?- there is no possible way that the police officer could have gotten out of the police car, apprehended the man (walking down the middle of the street is an offense), and then the man started to resist once the police officer attempted to actually place him in the police car?

On the contrary, the totality suggests that there was a perfect storm of circumstances:

- "D-ck size contest" ensues
-Officer is out numbered 2-1
-Man physically resists (Officer was probably not used to grappling- and espescially not with a larger opponent)
-Man breaks free and saunters off (now officer is losing the "d-ck contest")
-Officer loses track of the third person- is he also going to attack?
-Officer panics and shoots.

What the officer should have done is simply let the man go, called for back up, figured out who he was (he was well known in the area), then arrest him later for reisting arrest and causing a traffic obstruction.
 
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Doesn't it seem odd to you that the name of this person isn't released but ... if you killed someone, your face would be plastered the day of on the 6 o'clock news? This is why I don't trust state governments. They shown themselves to be inept and completely incapable of prosecuting local police officers.

I think that maybe we shouldn't release details in general, or limit the details that are released, for suspects in crimes before they are convicted in a court of law; civilian or police.
 
Did he ever get around to interviewing Mr. Brown's friend who was an eyewitness?


BTW, I know you won't concede that you were wrong, but I noticed you ignored my previous post to you.

There are now 3 eyewitnesses who have not been interviewed.
 
I think that maybe we shouldn't release details in general, or limit the details that are released, for suspects in crimes before they are convicted in a court of law; civilian or police.

Then the cops can't strut and crow.

Presumption of innocence.
 
There are now 3 eyewitnesses who have not been interviewed.

When a police officer is shot and killed, how many hours do they usually leave him dead in the street?
 
Did he ever get around to interviewing Mr. Brown's friend who was an eyewitness?


BTW, I know you won't concede that you were wrong, but I noticed you ignored my previous post to you.

Something akin to YOU ignoring the links you requested in the Robin Williams/Suicide thread and YOU ignored rather than conceding YOU are wrong? You mean like that?
 
I am betting if this were a white conservative, TP'er against a black, or Hispanic officer you'd either say nothing, or worse applaud it.

I'll bet my house in St. Maarten. It's worth a bit. You want to bet yours? Think about it. But before you do: Here are my posts on white cops shooting blacks:

Actually, I fully understand that. I had demonstrated that in this forum to the chagrin of other posters 6 years before you showed up. However, my solution has been to fire these cops, put them through trial, create a list where they are banned from applying for LEO jobs and pretty much all means that don't include killing all cops.

... My experience with LAPD has been that the most racist cops tend to be black. A cops race doesn't affect my experience with them anymore than the color of their eyes. I could meet a racist black/white cop one day and then a nice black/white cop the next. It all depends on the personality of the LEO. Not their race.

When the police killed Kelly Thomas (white):

This is just another case of the system defending violent cops.

When they failed to save a (white) boy from a fire:

I see this as a no win for the cops. Save the man, people blame you. Let the man die, people blame you. They made the best possible decision by saving at least one life. He can hate them all he wants but they went with the decision that was most in line with police procedure.

Lol, I stand against abuses of the law regardless of who they're against. Do you? ;)
 
Really?- there is no possible way that the police officer could have gotten out of the police car, apprehended the man (walking down the middle of the street is an offense), and then the man started to resist once the police officer attempted to actually place him in the police car?

On the contrary, the totality suggests that there was a perfect storm of circumstances:

- "D-ck contest" ensues
-Officer is out numbered 2-1
-Man physically resists (Officer was probably not used to grappling- and espescially not with a larger opponent)
-Man breaks free (now officer is losing the "d-ck contest")
-Officer loses track of the third person- is he also going to attack?
-Officer panics and shoots.

What the officer should have done is simply let the man go, called for back up, figured out who he was (he was well known in the area), then arrest him later for reisting arrest and causing a traffic obstruction.

The cop was pissed that they did not immediately subjugate to him.
 
I think that maybe we shouldn't release details in general, or limit the details that are released, for suspects in crimes before they are convicted in a court of law; civilian or police.

Trying the case in court would be better than trying it on the street, but then, as I said already, this is not a protest. It is an excuse to steal. The real victims are the owners of the businesses that were robbed and their insurers.
 
I am betting if this were a white conservative, TP'er against a black, or Hispanic officer you'd either say nothing, or worse applaud it.

I'll bet my house in St. Maarten. It's worth a bit. You want to bet yours? Think about it. But before you do: Here are my posts on white cops shooting blacks:

Actually, I fully understand that. I had demonstrated that in this forum to the chagrin of other posters 6 years before you showed up. However, my solution has been to fire these cops, put them through trial, create a list where they are banned from applying for LEO jobs and pretty much all means that don't include killing all cops.

... My experience with LAPD has been that the most racist cops tend to be black. A cops race doesn't affect my experience with them anymore than the color of their eyes. I could meet a racist black/white cop one day and then a nice black/white cop the next. It all depends on the personality of the LEO. Not their race.

When the police killed Kelly Thomas (white):

This is just another case of the system defending violent cops.

When they failed to save a (white) boy from a fire:

I see this as a no win for the cops. Save the man, people blame you. Let the man die, people blame you. They made the best possible decision by saving at least one life. He can hate them all he wants but they went with the decision that was most in line with police procedure.

Lol, I stand against abuses of the law regardless of who they're against. I also defend police officers when they need to be defended. Do you? Or do I need to show the other 200 dozen posts where you complain and moan about our slow march towards a "police state"? Tell us all again how you're in favor of transparency ;)
 
Something akin to YOU ignoring the links you requested in the Robin Williams/Suicide thread and YOU ignored rather than conceding YOU are wrong? You mean like that?

The blue platypus has a bad leg.
 
What possible good would that do? Do you want to see him or his family harmed? Remember the Martin case where the media released the wrong Zimmerman, and the elderly couple had to leave their house? What you are doing is irresponsible and if you release more in such fashion I will report you.

Uhhh I posted it here. But hell its all over the internet and news sites are reporting it.
 
The cop was pissed that they did not immediately subjugate to him.

You have to ask... what exactly was suspicious about two black kids walking down a ghetto neighborhood at night? I mean, I understand if they see two black kids walking down a rich neighborhood but what made them suspicious in the first place?
 
How on Earth could you have posted that? Now you're supporting putting him, his family and anyone he knows in jeopardy? This is as irresponsible a post as I have ever seen on this board.

By reporting news.. Also I dont think anyone here is going to go out and kill him.
 
Something akin to YOU ignoring the links you requested in the Robin Williams/Suicide thread and YOU ignored rather than conceding YOU are wrong? You mean like that?

Someone has a crush on me.
 
Uhhh I posted it here. But hell its all over the internet and news sites are reporting it.

Police Say Name Released By ‘Anonymous’ Is Not Officer In Controversial Shooting

CBS St. Louis will not identify the person named by Anonymous until it is confirmed by officials.

Police Say Name Released By ‘Anonymous’ Is Not Officer In Controversial Shooting « CBS St. Louis

I'd hate to be the wrong guy identified that people like you and others want to see killed. Collateral damage I guess.
 
The cop was pissed that they did not immediately subjugate to him.

Yes, I think this was a large factor in the shooting. The macho contest between the men had been rapidly escalating and this public humiliation, and the macho, (regardless of profession, income or ethnicity), are espescially sensitive to public humiliation, pushed it over the edge.

As a side note, the gas station shooting in Florida ("Boom Box" Dunn) was also the result of a macho contest that escalated and also invovled the public humiliation of a macho man.
 
Under the circumstances, and in consideration of the volatile situation that exists, why else would people need to know the cops name? 2+2=4.

So by reporting this that means "I want to see the cop killed"? Thats more like a 2+2=5 situation.
 
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