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    Re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    Even if you cut off the supply of military equipment to police forces, those young cops will stop be there. They'll still continue to bust down doors with gear they can get elsewhere. In other words, the problem is still there.

    And I wasn't ignoring it, I was dismissing it. There's a difference Monte..
    Well, you go ahead and dismiss what the cops who would know are saying about it and dismiss your civil liberties while your at it. I'll continue to fight for mine.
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    Re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    It goes to excessive force.
    If the first shot killed him, the remaining 8 are what.....extra dead?

    It's not beyond belief that it took 9 shots (9mm) to immobilize a large man, even one not...medicated. I agree it sounds excessive, but I wasn't on my back, pinned in my car, with a three hundred pound young man beating on me. If the cop was carrying a .40 or .45, that would be different...slightly.
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    Re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Well, you go ahead and dismiss what the cops who would know are saying about it and dismiss your civil liberties while your at it. I'll continue to fight for mine.
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    Re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Not talking about rules. But I knew you couldn't defend your false claim.
    Having you believe me, believe it or not, isn't worth a second of my time to do the research on your behalf. If you've followed the threads on this issue, you know what I stated is true. If it makes you feel better to deny that truth, who am I to stand in the way of your happiness.
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    Re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya Ockham What do you think about this? Do you think this might be relevant?


    FBI warns New Black Panther leader in Ferguson inciting violence.

    The FBI is concerned members of the New Black Panther Party are in Ferguson, Missouri and advocating violence against police, according to an alert from the St. Louis Division of the FBI, reported KTVI.

    Chawn Kweli, National Chief of Staff for the NBPP is in town, along with other members, to respond to the shooting of Michael Brown. Kweli posted on Facebook , “This is the hour all the greats promised. If you die, die like a warrior. I’ll see you on the ground.” He is posting updates from Ferguson under the tag: Live Battle Report.....snip~

    FBI warns of ‘New Black Panther Party’ leader inciting violence in Ferguson | WTVR.com
    I've been seeing news reports saying that the looting and violence isn't coming from Ferguson locals but outsiders ... this certainly lends credence to that.
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    Re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Neither of those are crimes punishable by death in traditional America.
    Who said they were? Setting up stawmen will not win you any debate points.

    It's the older, retired cops that are disgusted with the direction that the police are going as ex-Cop, Radley Balko points out in his book, Rise of the Warrior Cop. You keep talking about how old you are, so you should have a problem with it too!
    So all older people think alike eh? How very ageist of you. What you don't seem to understand is that as technology and weaponry advances, so to will tactics...Would you have police today (whom in most cases are outgunned) going up against .50cal's with .38 revolvers? Would you not equip cops with riot gear to hold the line against anarchist rioters? Your youth doesn't reflect the real world, and we don't have all the facts in this...You are choosing to believe people with an anti police bias. And what I have consistently said is that the investigation has to be completed before you can just buy into these friends of the young man...
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    Re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    If we didn't have well heeled gangs and cartels duking it out with the cops and each other over turf, maybe we wouldn't need militarized police forces. It seems to me that there is an obvious way to at least reduce the incidence of violence in this country, and perhaps not have to pay to have so many people locked up as well.
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    Re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Peaceful protesters?
    BS!

    This is exactly why they wanted his name released and why it never should have been.
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    Re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Peaceful protesters?
    BS!

    This is exactly why they wanted his name released and why it never should have been.
    Yeah Excon. and the News Reporters said they were sorry for showing where he lived.....after they showed where he lived. Their usual.

    Again my point was if the FBI knew he was inciting violence. Why didn't they arrest him?

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    Re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yeah Excon. and the News Reporters said they were sorry for showing where he lived.....after they showed where he lived. Their usual.

    Again my point was if the FBI knew he was inciting violence. Why didn't they arrest him?
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