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    Re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    ‘Let’s put away the toys, boys’: Ferguson spotlights police militarization

    http://america.aljazeera.com/article...mikebrown.html
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    Re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    So, in other words, the sainted Obama could do something about it but won't and yet your primary concern is Bush started it. Were the problems that concern you evident and relevant during the Bush Presidency, or have they started to become a problem in recent years? Likewise, do you still blame Abraham Lincoln for the state of federal income taxes today?
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    Norman Stamper: What happened in Seattle in 1999 was a police overreaction, which I presided over. It was the worst mistake of my career. We used chemical agents, a euphemism for tear gas, against nonviolent and essentially nonthreatening protesters. The natural consequence of which are that we were the catalyst for heightened tension and conflict rather than peacekeepers, or for that matter even peacemakers. It's a lesson, unfortunately, that American law enforcement in general has not learned.
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    Re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    The Democratic Party seems more constitution and civil liberty minded.

    Rep. Hank Johnson, D-Ga., says he plans to introduce legislation when Congress returns in September to curb what he describes as an increasing militarization of police agencies across the country.

    “Our Main Streets should be a place for business, families and relaxation, not tanks and M16s,” Johnson said Thursday. “Militarizing America’s Main Streets won’t make us any safer, just more fearful and more reticent.”

    Attorney General Eric Holder said he’s concerned that use of military equipment by police in Ferguson, Missouri, is sending a “conflicting message.” Holder said authorities there have accepted the Justice Department’s offer of crowd-control help as it continues to investigate the Saturday shooting death of 18-year-old Michael Brown.
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    Re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Chew on this CJ!
    Retired Seattle police chief.

    Norman Stamper: What happened in Seattle in 1999 was a police overreaction, which I presided over. It was the worst mistake of my career. We used chemical agents, a euphemism for tear gas, against nonviolent and essentially nonthreatening protesters. The natural consequence of which are that we were the catalyst for heightened tension and conflict rather than peacekeepers, or for that matter even peacemakers. It's a lesson, unfortunately, that American law enforcement in general has not learned.


    Well, I am not one that is always running around and sticking up for the Police.....but then what about L.A. 1997?



    1997 North Hollywood shootout: Two bank robbers, covered from head to toe in body armor, were able to engage officers for an hour long gun battle. Three hundred and fifty officers of the Los Angeles Police Department responded to the call. The shootout resulted in 11 injured LAPD officers and seven injured civilians.....snip~

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    Re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I don't know why it is that right wing freaks have such contempt for civil liberties and our constitution. They all need to go colonise Antarctica.
    You don't have a civil right to carry out a strong arm robbery. You don't have a right to riot, and loot....You progressive liberals constantly twist, and manipulate the constitution to suit your political needs, so when the constitution means nothing to you, then the protections of that document mean nothing as well...Congratulations, you've proven that you don't understand this country's founding document.
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    Re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The Democratic Party seems more constitution and civil liberty minded.

    Rep. Hank Johnson, D-Ga., says he plans to introduce legislation when Congress returns in September to curb what he describes as an increasing militarization of police agencies across the country.

    “Our Main Streets should be a place for business, families and relaxation, not tanks and M16s,” Johnson said Thursday. “Militarizing America’s Main Streets won’t make us any safer, just more fearful and more reticent.”

    Attorney General Eric Holder said he’s concerned that use of military equipment by police in Ferguson, Missouri, is sending a “conflicting message.” Holder said authorities there have accepted the Justice Department’s offer of crowd-control help as it continues to investigate the Saturday shooting death of 18-year-old Michael Brown.

    Hank Johnson? Wasn't he the one that thought that an island would tip over if too many people were on it? Hank Johnson is a race baiter of the worst kind.
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    Re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You don't have a civil right to carry out a strong arm robbery. You don't have a right to riot, and loot....You progressive liberals constantly twist, and manipulate the constitution to suit your political needs, so when the constitution means nothing to you, then the protections of that document mean nothing as well...Congratulations, you've proven that you don't understand this country's founding document.
    Neither of those are crimes punishable by death in traditional America. It's the older, retired cops that are disgusted with the direction that the police are going as ex-Cop, Radley Balko points out in his book, Rise of the Warrior Cop. You keep talking about how old you are, so you should have a problem with it too!
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    Re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yes and yes. And don't refer to Obama as sainted when addressing me, it shows your lack of honesty or a comprehension deficiency. Btw, how's Harper running things up there.
    Things are going swimmingly up here - Harper's government is running a surplus and they're in discussion determining how big a tax break Canadians will get next year. Canada is a leader in the G20, etc. Life is good.

    Gives me lots of time to tune in to the American follies.
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    Re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Hank Johnson? Wasn't he the one that thought that an island would tip over if too many people were on it? Hank Johnson is a race baiter of the worst kind.
    And Rand Paul, and Eric holder, and the retired police chief from Minneapolis, and the retired police chief from Seattle, and the retired Cop that wrote 'Rise of the warrior Cop' and Claire Mccaskill, and most older retired Cops!
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    Re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Chew on this CJ!
    Retired Seattle police chief.

    Norman Stamper: What happened in Seattle in 1999 was a police overreaction, which I presided over. It was the worst mistake of my career. We used chemical agents, a euphemism for tear gas, against nonviolent and essentially nonthreatening protesters. The natural consequence of which are that we were the catalyst for heightened tension and conflict rather than peacekeepers, or for that matter even peacemakers. It's a lesson, unfortunately, that American law enforcement in general has not learned.
    I chewed and spit it out since it has zero relevance to the situation in Ferguson.
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