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    Re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

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    Not much bigotry in that notion.

    Then, white folks wouldn't want be policed by black cops.
    True...but shouldnt people be allowed to discover such things (their own bigotry) for themselves? Because sometimes, just words dont mean much.
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    Re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    True...but shouldnt people be allowed to discover such things (their own bigotry) for themselves? Because sometimes, just words dont mean much.
    Discrimination is illegal and rightfully so
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Certainly. I'm all about law and order, I can't stand it when these idiots ruin perfect opportunities for the public to stand up and say hell no to police excess by destroying and stealing private or public property, and I have no sympathy for these folk. But setting that aside, I do not want to see our police, the same guys we all interact with in various ways on a daily basis looking and behaving like our military, and every inch we cede will be an inch lost. As I said earlier, if a situation exceeds the limitations of law enforcement to respond adequately, then bring in the NG, and as soon as the situation is secure, put them back away.
    Do you really want us to wait for the NG to put a unit together to respond to school shooting? And what about a bank robberies? My point is that it takes a lot of time and prep work to bring in the NG, and they wouldn't be of any help in those cases. Or how about when you have a hostage crisis or you need to carry our a drug raid. (Side note: I'm all for legalization, but as long as the laws are they way they are, someone has to carry them out is all I'm saying). Do you really want to stretch the resources of the NG carrying out these duties?

    Face it, there's a need in this country today for a rapid reaction police force that can meet an opposing force with equal or greater force. And there are some lines that aren't getting crossed by the way, but are not being as highlighted. There is no police force in the country that uses offensive style hand grenades (fragmentation, incendiary, etc.), no one carries rocket launchers, and they don't drive around in tanks armed with massive cannons. So, calling it a "militarization" is going a little far.

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    Re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Discrimination is illegal and rightfully so
    I just asked for them to consider what the options *would* mean. Choosing no cops wouldnt be discrimination, nor would be providing their own. I forget the middle option but it might have been discriminatory, but as I said, it was meant to be hypothetical, not functional.
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    Re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    Do you really want us to wait for the NG to put a unit together to respond to school shooting? And what about a bank robberies? My point is that it takes a lot of time and prep work to bring in the NG, and they wouldn't be of any help in those cases. Or how about when you have a hostage crisis or you need to carry our a drug raid. (Side note: I'm all for legalization, but as long as the laws are they way they are, someone has to carry them out is all I'm saying). Do you really want to stretch the resources of the NG carrying out these duties?

    Face it, there's a need in this country today for a rapid reaction police force that can meet an opposing force with equal or greater force. And there are some lines that aren't getting crossed by the way, but are not being as highlighted. There is no police force in the country that uses offensive style hand grenades (fragmentation, incendiary, etc.), no one carries rocket launchers, and they don't drive around in tanks armed with massive cannons. So, calling it a "militarization" is going a little far.
    There's no justification for the militarisation of the local police. We have SWAT for school shootings and bank robberies and hostage situations. This incident went on for days, while the NG could have been there in 6 hours.

    As to the rest of your post, cede an inch then a foot, next your talking about the things that your dismissing, hell no. I support the legislation to DEMILITARISE our local police departments.
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    Re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

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    Economic disparity still exists and is not getting better.
    Throwing money at it isn't working either.

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    Re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    There's no justification for the militarisation of the local police. We have SWAT for school shootings and bank robberies and hostage situations. This incident went on for days, while the NG could have been there in 6 hours.

    As to the rest of your post, cede an inch then a foot, next your talking about the things that your dismissing, hell no. I support the legislation to DEMILITARISE our local police departments.
    Hmm, I would of thought that you would consider SWAT teams as part of that militarization. I guess not then...

    So what exactly are you talking about when you say "militarization" if you aren't referring to swat teams? Is there specific gear they are using you don't think they should have? Because everything I've seen, I would expect SWAT to have.

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    Re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    I remember watching that live when it was happening. It seemed like a movie, a bad movie but a movie nonetheless. It was also close to where i grew up. It was so weird recognizing so many landmarks that were getting shot up for real.
    I think the most surprising thing out of that whole incident was that the only people who died were the bank robbers. I'll never understand how that many, high powered rifle rounds could be flying and no one get killed.

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    Re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    There's no justification for the militarisation of the local police. We have SWAT for school shootings and bank robberies and hostage situations. This incident went on for days, while the NG could have been there in 6 hours.

    As to the rest of your post, cede an inch then a foot, next your talking about the things that your dismissing, hell no. I support the legislation to DEMILITARISE our local police departments.
    I'm still trying figure out how you demilitarize the cops.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Protests over Missouri teen's death turn violent[W:647,807]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I'm still trying figure out how you demilitarize the cops.
    Give the military equipment back to the DoD or scrap it.

    I'll bet nobody has kept records, though.
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