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    Kurdish Forces Reverse Militant Gains as U.S. Continues Airstrikes

    Alright!
    Our friends, the Peshmerga, have taken back two areas from ISIS.
    As always, the Kurds just need a little help to overcome. Overcome the heavy weaponry ISIS had taken from the Iraqi Army further South.
    Keep the strikes up, but none for Maliki's mini-Iran in the South unless Baghdad is truly endanger of falling.

    Kurdish Forces Reverse Militant Gains as U.S. Continues Airstrikes

    U.S. Warplanes Hit Targets for a Third Day
    By DION NISSENBAUM/MICHELLE HACKMAN
    WSJ - Updated Aug. 10, 2014 4:01 p.m. ET
    Kurdish Forces Reverse Militant Gains as U.S. Continues Airstrikes in Iraq - WSJ
    BAGHDAD—Kurdish forces said they retook two important parts of northern Iraq on Sunday, reversing gains by Islamist militants while U.S. warplanes conducted a third day of airstrikes on the insurgents. The advance of the radical Sunni group Islamic State into the semiautonomous region last week sparked a humanitarian disaster and prompted the first U.S. military intervention in Iraq in 3 years.

    Kurdish fighters overtook Islamic State positions in Makhmur District, a region north of the city of Kirkuk, and the nearby town of Gwair. The fighters, who until recently had called themselves the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham, also known as ISIS or ISIL, had taken over the two towns last week as part of a broader push toward Erbil, the capital of the Kurdish region.

    The U.S. State Department on Sunday relocated "a limited number" of staff from the American embassy in Baghdad and the U.S. consulate in Erbil. They will be transferred to the U.S. consulate in Basra, Iraq and to Amman, Jordan.

    The Kurdish advance has restored hope that at least One fighting force in the region is still capable of confronting an Islamist juggernaut that cowed Iraq's U.S.-trained military and quickly snatched more than a quarter of the country during its blitz toward Baghdad in June. Since then, Iraqi forces have been unable to reclaim even modest tracts of land. Sunday's victories demonstrate how important America's military re-engagement in Iraq will be toward restoring the country's fragile cohesiveness.

    "We cleared up Makhmour and Gwair of Islamic State militants and 25 villages around it," said a security official for the Peshmerga, the Kurdish soldiers who make up a somewhat independent contingent within Iraq's army. "We have flown the Kurdistan flag again in the center of Makhmour."

    The Peshmerga fought for several days to retake the two towns, said Kurdish security officers. Though Kurdish soldiers are known to be Better trained and equipped than other Iraqi troops,[b[ they were at first overwhelmed by the Islamic States' superior weapons, many of which had been pilfered from retreating Iraqi troops in June.[/b] [.......]
    I remain in favor of not just a Kurdish autonomus region but a Kurdish state. The latter, admittedly, a much more difficult proposition.

    The Yazidis and other minorities, incl Christians, remain in Deep trouble in the area, although the Sinjar Mountain seige has loosened somewhat.
    Also reports that Hundreds of Yazidi women have been taken as 'war wives'; an untold amount of casualties on that front.

    Iraqi Christian families forced to flee their homes shelter in
    the St. Joseph Church in Erbil, northern Iraq, Saturday.
    EPA

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    Re: Kurdish Forces Reverse Militant Gains as U.S. Continues Airstrikes

    I say to Obama..stop the air strikes and mind your own business.

    Stopping major genocide is one thing - but choosing sides in civil war's is quite another.

    Let Iraqi's fight their own battles...no matter how much you hate the potential winning side.

    I have said it before, Neocons (like the one's that call for these strikes) do more harm to America then ANY terrorist group ever could.
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    Re: Kurdish Forces Reverse Militant Gains as U.S. Continues Airstrikes

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    I say to Obama..stop the air strikes and mind your own business.

    Let Iraqi's fight their own battles...no matter how much you hate the potential winning side.

    I have said it before, Neocons do more harm to America then ANY terrorist group ever could.
    Yeah, we wouldn't want to rudely interrupt the wanton slaughter of civilians. Take your hippie **** elsewhere :

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    Re: Kurdish Forces Reverse Militant Gains as U.S. Continues Airstrikes

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    I say to Obama..stop the air strikes and mind your own business.

    Stopping major genocide is one thing - but choosing sides in civil what's are quite another.

    Let Iraqi's fight their own battles...no matter how much you hate the potential winning side.

    I have said it before, Neocons do more harm to America then ANY terrorist group ever could.
    Obama is a Neocon? Plus you would have to incredibly ignorant not to recognize the risk to US interests that a terrorist state in the heart of the Mid East would be.

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    Re: Kurdish Forces Reverse Militant Gains as U.S. Continues Airstrikes

    U.S. Involvement in Iraq: ‘It’s Time to Come Home’

    August 8, 2014 – The president has ordered airstrikes in ISIS in Iraq. The more things change, the more they stay the same, except when things get worse.

    The U.S. has been involved in Iraq since 1990. Following our routing of Saddam Hussein from Kuwait, our air force was involved in bombing Iraq for 12 years. This effort was one of the three reasons Bin Laden gave for the 9/11 attacks.

    In March of 2003, we invaded, and over the past 11 years, suffered severe casualties and costs. An incomplete effort to leave Iraq was met with chaos, far surpassing anything seen under Saddam Hussein. And now, after 24 years, it’s back to square one: aerial bombardments of ISIS forces that have taken over nearly a third of Iraq.

    The hawks are delighted with the switch to militarism as the solution for the chaos that our policies have created. Many, though, are not satisfied that Obama is using enough force to subdue the ongoing civil war.

    John Boehner, speaking for the Republican leadership, claims that more force is needed since our vital national interests are at stake. Boehner is demanding a long-term strategy that defines success as completing our mission. Of course, we all recall the Republican description of of “mission accomplished” back in 2003.

    How in the world can we expect continuing the same policy of the last 24 years to all of a sudden work? It’s time to come home.'

    U.S. Involvement in Iraq: ‘It’s Time to Come Home’ | Voices of Liberty, Powered by Ron Paul

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    Re: Kurdish Forces Reverse Militant Gains as U.S. Continues Airstrikes

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    I say to Obama..stop the air strikes and mind your own business.
    Stopping major genocide is one thing - but choosing sides in civil war's are quite another.

    Let Iraqi's fight their own battles...no matter how much you hate the potential winning side.
    I have said it before, Neocons (like the one's that call for these strikes) do more harm to America then ANY terrorist group ever could.
    And you profer ISIS is part of a "Civil War"?
    My OP advocated nothing but helping the Kurds/minorities in the North against ISIS, Not Shia.
    I also specifically limited my area of support, "unless".
    and of Course, ISIS taking anything but a Sunni area WOULD mean 'Genocide' for everyone else.
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    Re: Kurdish Forces Reverse Militant Gains as U.S. Continues Airstrikes

    If the Kurds were put in charge of the country things would get a lot better.
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    Re: Kurdish Forces Reverse Militant Gains as U.S. Continues Airstrikes

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    Yeah, we wouldn't want to rudely interrupt the wanton slaughter of civilians. Take your hippie **** elsewhere :
    'Hippie ****'...lol...mature as ever, I see.

    Btw, I said that stopping mass genocide was okay.

    And don't be ridiculous...Obama is not just talking about genocide prevention.

    The president repeated his insistence that his administration would not send ground troops back to Iraq after ending an unpopular, decade-long war and withdrawing the last troops in 2011. But two days after emphasizing the limited scope of the mission in a White House address, he pledged that the United States would stand with Iraq if it could form a unified and inclusive government to counter the Sunni militants who threaten its future.

    '“Changing that environment so that the millions of Sunnis who live in these areas feel connected to and well-served by a national government, that’s a long-term process,” he said in a lengthy departure statement on the White House lawn, during which he took several questions from reporters.'


    Iraq airstrikes could go on for months, Obama warns | Toronto Star

    This is clearly a long term, major involvement in trying to dictate the course of a foreign country that is NONE of America's business.


    I realize that your mind is completely closed on this - so my answer is strictly for the benefit of others who might read this.

    You and I are done on this.


    Good day.

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    Re: Kurdish Forces Reverse Militant Gains as U.S. Continues Airstrikes

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    And you profer ISIS is part of a "Civil War"?
    My OP advocated nothing but helping the Kurds/minorities in the North against ISIS, Not Shia.
    I also specifically limited my area of support, "unless".
    and of Course, ISIS taking anything but a Sunni area WOULD mean 'Genocide' for everyone else.
    I was not referring to your post per se, but Neocons in general...that is why I did not quote you.

    And I liked the part where you stated to leave the south to their own fate.

    But Obama is clearly not just looking at humanitarian aid and genovide-stopping airstrikes...as he stated before he left on his golfing trip, he is talking about a long term involvement.

    I believe the humanitarian/genocide part was purely justification for getting back into Iraq.
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    Re: Kurdish Forces Reverse Militant Gains as U.S. Continues Airstrikes

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    If the Kurds were put in charge of the country things would get a lot better.
    I think America (and other nations) making those kinds of judgements is what created this mess in the first place.
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