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White students to no longer be majority at school[W:62]

j-mac said:
What a foolish post....Are you a legal American citizen? Then no.
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Your source does not discuss legal or illegal, it only discusses racial makeup. You are the one assuming illegal.
 
Henrin said:
Why? Isn't that doing it backwards? Those coming into the country are supposed to adjust, not those already in the country.
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Yeah, Europeans totally just "adjusted" to the Native American way of life.
 
j-mac said:
That's your opinion....And as one that ideologically agrees with him, I would expect nothing less.
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So what is the overburdening in your opinion? Is the simple fact that whites are outnumbered in schools somehow evidence of overburdening?

Do you have proof of that Chinese POW operation or are you going to admit that you just pulled history out of your ass to make a talking point?
 
Summerwind said:
Travel is not the same a residency, which apparently you have a problem with, hence not a true libertarian.
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You should really learn who you are talking to before opening your mouth and you should definitely stop placing views on me.
 
j-mac said:
The best way to take down a nation is not by power, force, military, or any of that kind of stuff, but rather by swamping it with more people that they have to take care of....Back in WWII, the Chinese had a plan to take over Russia. It basically consisted of having their troops surrender in droves to the point where the Russian system would be so overburdened that it collapsed, and China could take over without firing a shot...This is what the liberals, and bleeding hearts are doing with this open borders policy, and they know it...
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If your theory revolves around people behaving like Lex Luthor, the problem might be with you.
 
j-mac said:
That's your opinion....And as one that ideologically agrees with him, I would expect nothing less.
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I expect people to defend their positions. You claimed overburdening, but when questioned, instead of showing this overburdening, you tried to make yourself a victim. In point of fact, his post did not call you racist, and simply asked you to defend your position. Since I am a nice person, even though you continue to abjectly fail to defend your post, I will ask again, maybe you can answer instead of running or playing the victim: overburdened how? How does racial makeup affect the burden on schools?
 
j-mac said:
No, it isn't racism. That is only the charge that will be thrown out there to distract, and stifle real discussion. Congratulations it took you less than 5 posts to muddy the water.
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How true

How dare someone imply that an OP bemoaning the racial composition of children in schools has something to do with race
 
TeleKat said:
And that's a bad thing? :lol:
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Yeah it is. Big government liberals is a-okay with you then - libertarian are you? ::shock:
 
TeleKat said:
Wtf? Are you kidding with me, Henrin?
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No, that is usually how it goes. The melting pot as you put it is controlled in many aspects by the majority race/culture. When the soup goes bad it is many times the fault of the lead cook.
 
j-mac said:
You don't know me...I am not racist at all...But, you assume so why...? Because I ask provocative questions?
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:lamo
 
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Re: White students to no longer be majority at school

Henrin said:
It is if you look at the entire picture. The only party this demographic shift will help is democrats, while hurting every other party. The fact is libertarians have an easier time getting white voters than Hispanic voters.
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The GOP and LP have only themselves to blame. The GOP's policies drive minorities out in droves. The LP has issues that appeal to minorities but it isn't vocal enough on them. We're pro-choice, pro-gay, and for open borders but LP leadership is more focused on appealing to disgruntled conservatives than any other groups. Which hurts us in the long run.

The Democratic Party gets so much support because, to the majority of voters, they are seemingly the only remotely sane party on immigration. The Libertarian Party needs to be louder, and the GOP needs a complete 180 on immigration policy. Otherwise hispanics will continue voting Democrat.

Shipping off Mexicans because they don't vote the way you like is perhaps even worse than shipping them off in the first place.
 
sangha said:
How true

How dare someone imply that an OP bemoaning the racial composition of children in schools has something to do with race
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It's damn annoying when someone gets called out on their BS and then plays the victim card. If you're gonna hint that changing demographics is bad when it means a lower percentage of whites, expect to be called a racist.
 
TeleKat said:
No worse than big government conservatives.
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It could be but big government anything is not good for anyone. Big government begets big bureaucracy, which begets big regulations and intrusions into peoples lives... liberty and freedoms become non existent. And no, I don't see the equivalence argument working here - it's pretty clear that one will race to big government faster than the other given the opportunity. I for one would wish for less totalitarianism in my life for the next few decades.
 
Brouwer said:
It's damn annoying when someone gets called out on their BS and then plays the victim card. If you're gonna hint that changing demographics is bad when it means a lower percentage of whites, expect to be called a racist.
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To my mind, racism requires a feeling of superiority or inferiority of a race compared to others. While the OP post is racial, I think it does not rise to the level of racism. We need to stop overusing the term racist. Something does not have to be racist to be bad.
 
Redress said:
To my mind, racism requires a feeling of superiority or inferiority of a race compared to others. While the OP post is racial, I think it does not rise to the level of racism. We need to stop overusing the term racist. Something does not have to be racist to be bad.
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Why else, other than some sort of disadvantage, would whites being a minority at a school be bad? The OP implies there's something wrong with the trend without stating why. Hence, until he states why, it's fair to assume it is racism.
 
Brouwer said:
Why else, other than some sort of disadvantage, would whites being a minority at a school be bad? The OP implies there's something wrong with the trend without stating why. Hence, until he states why, it's fair to assume it is racism.
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Simple dislike of other. I don't like speculating on the motives of others, in part because motives tend to be complex and multi-layered.
 
j-mac said:
Just another sign that the "open borders" quasi policy is on a path to overburden our systems...What say you?
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Are South Americans not white?

Try explaining that to an Argentinian or white Brazilian.
 
Summerwind said:
All you Repubs and psuedo-Libertarians (I disagree that a true libertarian would be against freedom to travel and live wherever one wants to) have to do is quit being the haters you present yourself as, and it would diminish the likelihood that immigrants would be so one sided in their voting patterns. It's not their fault that the Dems are an inclusive and humane party and the Repubs are exclusive and hate-filled.
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You are correct. Open borders and free travel are a very important part of the Libertarian Party platform. Problem is: the LP is not as vocal about it as they could be. The LP relies heavily on the Independent conservative voters, so they tend to place more of an emphasis on economic freedom. A mistake IMHO. To be fair, the Chairman did issue a statement about the immigrant children and why it is in our best interest to let them stay, but it's not enough. Immigration is a hot issue right now and the LP should be more involved in the national debate.

Libertarians and Republicans who complain about hispanics voting Democrat frankly have only themselves to blame.
 
Redress said:
To my mind, racism requires a feeling of superiority or inferiority of a race compared to others. While the OP post is racial, I think it does not rise to the level of racism. We need to stop overusing the term racist. Something does not have to be racist to be bad.
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The OP laments the eventual end of a white majority in the public school system. One implication of that lamentation is that whiteness is better than non-whiteness, for lack of a better word. It is, therefore, rational to perceive racism in the OP.

What 'we' (meaning you and people like you) need to do is stop refusing to talk about racism when it isn't overt. Something does not have to have "WHITE SUPREMACY" painted over it in bold colors for it to be racist.
 
j-mac said:
Yes it has been a melting pot. Full of LEGAL immigrants that came to this country in hopes of assimilating into the American society and becoming Americans....Those coming now are neither legal, nor want to assimilate to America.
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Too many conservatives had no problem with this "melting pot" until their kind of metal started dwindling, now, it's alarming.

The truth is that the white population in the U.S. will continue to decrease as the Hispanic population will continue to rise. No need to be overly concerned, Mexicans are people too.
 
j-mac said:
So you have nothing to point to me being racist, only the slur to throw at me...Watch it girl, I don't take kindly to that type of crap.
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Y'know,(deep sigh) if conservatives don't want to be seen that way, they need to stop acting and legislating and talking in the ways they do. It's not a slur, it's what y'all present. If it's not, true, then you've all got a funny way of showin' it.

With that I'll leave this thread as there's clearly nothing here but an OP hating so much as to not even consider the opinions of others, the health or well being of others (individually or collectively), the reality of current laws and deportation statistics, the legitimate growth of non-whites including Asians and Blacks simply because of the decrease in childhood births among white women, the fiscally responsible choices of providing reasonable care and school and accommodations, especially since we know they were all pretty much lied to and did not arrive with malice or false intent, until they can go through the aforementioned legal system and their futures determined.


And you did ask the question. So I was/am only answering what you asked. I did not simply troll in and call you a racist.
 
Ockham said:
It could be but big government anything is not good for anyone. Big government begets big bureaucracy, which begets big regulations and intrusions into peoples lives... liberty and freedoms become non existent. And no, I don't see the equivalence argument working here - it's pretty clear that one will race to big government faster than the other given the opportunity. I for one would wish for less totalitarianism in my life for the next few decades.
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The Patriot Act was written, passed, and signed into law by Republicans. All these anti-freedom documents that the Tea Party is so distressed about is passing by a landslide in a Republican controlled House. Both parties are equally terrible. The GOP may have some pretty rhetoric, but when it comes down to it they are no better than the Democrats they hate so much.
 
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