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    Re: White students to no longer be majority at school[W:62]

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    Honey, if you're basing the entirety of BF on me then you DEFINITELY don't know jack about BF. Particularly since you don't know jack about me. I'm not religious. I'm for SSM. I'm Pro-Choice. I'm for a lot of things that many consider "liberal" ideologies. And so are all of my friends. So I guess you don't know near as much as you tout about BF. So tell me, how is any of this "regressive"? Oh right, its not. Your "knowledge" is tainted by some bad experience that you happened to have in Idaho (and obviously not in Bonners Ferry). You put everyone in Idaho down because of it. When in fact you don't know jack ****.
    I lived in the only bluish area of Idaho for 2 decades, my ex's family lived in Moscow where my ex was raised, don't try to tell me I don't know enough about Idaho to paint it regressive. Been there, done that, and still return like it or not, to see my daughter until she can extricate herself.
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    Re: White students to no longer be majority at school[W:62]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    It is not an issue. Educate yourself. There are about 11.7 million illegal immigrants in the US. Roughly 6 % are school age. My calculator comes up with 702k illegal immigrants of school age. There are about 40 million students in the US K - 12. I get about 1.755 % of students tops are illegal aliens. It took me 5 minutes to get all that together. There is no excuse for ignorance nor perpetuating the lie in the OP.
    Most illegal immigrants are centered in a few states. Mostly the south western ones with a few exceptions.Which means those 702k illegal aliens of school age are centered upon those same states. They are not spread out all across the US like that 40 million is. Try adjusting your calculations to take that into effect. For instance out of 12 million illegals in this country there is an estimated 3 million some odd living just in Texas and California alone. Now since in this country people like to segregate themselves most of those illegals will be living generally in the same areas with in those states.

    What are those schools like? Not exactly spacious huh? What's it like for the teachers being able to give one on one education as needed? Would you rather have your child in a classroom with 30 students? Or 20?

    Now consider this....in 2010-11 the average cost per student was 12,608 dollars. 702k X 12,608 dollars = 8,850,816,000. Tell me...is that not a burden?

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    Re: White students to no longer be majority at school[W:62]

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    I lived in the only bluish area of Idaho for 2 decades, my ex's family lived in Moscow where my ex was raised, don't try to tell me I don't know enough about Idaho to paint it regressive. Been there, done that, and still return like it or not, to see my daughter until she can extricate herself.
    Sorry but you have proven that you don't know jack about BF. Despite your claim to know it. As such I doubt any other claim that you may make regarding the rest of Idaho.
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    Re: White students to no longer be majority at school[W:62]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Most illegal immigrants are centered in a few states. Mostly the south western ones with a few exceptions.Which means those 702k illegal aliens of school age are centered upon those same states. They are not spread out all across the US like that 40 million is. Try adjusting your calculations to take that into effect. For instance out of 12 million illegals in this country there is an estimated 3 million some odd living just in Texas and California alone. Now since in this country people like to segregate themselves most of those illegals will be living generally in the same areas with in those states.

    What are those schools like? Not exactly spacious huh? What's it like for the teachers being able to give one on one education as needed? Would you rather have your child in a classroom with 30 students? Or 20?

    Now consider this....in 2010-11 the average cost per student was 12,608 dollars. 702k X 12,608 dollars = 8,850,816,000. Tell me...is that not a burden?

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    LoLz. US GDP is ~15.68 trillion. So your "burden" is .0628 %. On the list of issues facing this country, illegal students is WAY down that list. And the OP article has jack and **** to do with illegals anyway. You got lied to, and you are pushing that lie.
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    Re: White students to no longer be majority at school[W:62]

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    Re: White students to no longer be majority at school[W:62]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    LoLz. US GDP is ~15.68 trillion. So your "burden" is .0628 %. On the list of issues facing this country, illegal students is WAY down that list. And the OP article has jack and **** to do with illegals anyway. You got lied to, and you are pushing that lie.
    Umm...last I knew public schools were funded mainly by property taxes and state taxes and as you well know individual states do not make 15.68 trillion. Try again. And you never did answer my other question. Would you rather have your kids in a classroom size of 30 or 20?

    And again, the OP brought up illegal immigrant kids in schools. As such it is valid to talk about. Whether the OP was wrong or not in regards to the article is irrelevant. The subject was brought up in the OP and as such is valid to talk about.
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    Re: White students to no longer be majority at school[W:62]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    While that certainly might be his thinking, it is not explicit nor sure. If "we" cannot figure out how to argue against stupid things without having to give them negative labels, then the problem is ours, not theirs.
    You just called certain things "stupid" and yet just argued that we shouldn't label things negatively. Why do you consider "racist" a negative label, but you don't consider "stupid" a negative label?

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    Re: White students to no longer be majority at school[W:62]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    So if you are still locked into the idea that the issue with "Mexican" kids in elementary schools is being driven by Obama's immigration policy (which is hilarious in and of itself since his admin has been deporting at record numbers AND the recession caused many to go back), it isn't, this is a trend in the making and it is not going to slow much, if at all. But as I said, if you think some homegrown help could help, send em a pizza.
    This is the claim by the liberal left, and such has been outed as spin many times over, so one wonders why it is continually used....

    "The administration is "playing a double game," argued Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, which favors tighter immigration restrictions. "They're telling (pro-immigration) advocacy groups that they're focusing on the worst of the worst" by committing more resources to the most dangerous undocumented immigrants.

    "But they're telling the broader public they've achieved record levels of deportations.

    It's a clever spin."

    So what are the facts? Nearly 400,000 individuals were removed from the country in fiscal year 2011, which ended September 30, according to the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency. ICE Director John Morton trumpeted the news, calling it the result of "smart and effective immigration enforcement" that depends on "setting clear priorities for removal and executing on those priorities."

    The 396,906 figure is indeed a record -- but not by much. A total of 392,862 people were deported in 2010 -- a difference of little more than 1%, according to ICE. Almost 390,000 people were deported the year before that.
    Significantly larger increases in the total number of deportations occurred during George W. Bush's administration. Fewer than 120,000 people were deported in 2001, when Bush took office.

    Analysts say much of the change over the last decade has been due to the implementation of controversial federal-led measures such as Secure Communities initiative and the Criminal Alien Program, which are designed to root out undocumented immigrants accused or convicted of various criminal acts. Both measures predate Obama's presidency."

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    Re: White students to no longer be majority at school[W:62]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Most illegal immigrants are centered in a few states. Mostly the south western ones with a few exceptions.Which means those 702k illegal aliens of school age are centered upon those same states. They are not spread out all across the US like that 40 million is.
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    Re: White students to no longer be majority at school[W:62]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    The Borg ?

    Let's focus on the issue and not hyperbolic references to science fiction bad guys.

    First, we can look at the European Countries who've embraced the policy of Multi-culturalism to see whether or assimilation is critical or if it can be ignored in the hopes that we can retain some semblance of a National identity while immigrants poor in illegally with no intention of acknowledging our culture, our laws or the consequence of their actions.


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    British PM: Multiculturalism has failed - World news - Europe | NBC News

    “Under the doctrine of state multiculturalism, we have encouraged different cultures to live separate lives, apart from each other and the mainstream,” Cameron said during a panel discussion attended by German Chancellor Angela Merkel. “We have failed to provide a vision of society to which they feel they want to belong.”
    He said the “hands-off tolerance” in Britain and other European nations has encouraged Muslims and other immigrant groups “to live separate lives, apart from each other and the mainstream.”

    Yes, multiculturalism over assimilation has worked wonders for Countries like Britain and France.

    I'm sure the French Politicians wish they could have a do over on the multi cultural policies that have led to riots in Paris and a isolated population that refuses to assimilate. Hey, they were just poor disadvantaged Islamic youth who were demanding that parts of France be recognized as Islamic territory and that French law be replaced by Islamic law, or sharia.

    Yea, assimilation is overrated..

    ' Whether you accept it or not, assimilation into a prevailing culture is critical and benefits not only American citizens but the immigrants. The problem is these " immigrants " are ILLEGAL immigrants, who've by-passed the process that naturalized citizens go through.

    Naturalized citizens not only take an Oath upon receiving their citizenship but they must also demonstrate knowledge of U.S. history, politics, and government.

    Millions of illegals from third world Countries are not only going to refuse to assimilate, they're going to burden already overloaded Social services, School District's and Hospitals. They are coming in with the INTENTION of being dependent wards of the State.

    Millions of illegal immigrants, poorly educated or not educated at all, not loyal to the US, who are culturally predisposed to dependence AND who could care less how their actions affect the people of the Country they've just illegally entered into are exactly the type of people our immigration laws are set up to stop.
    There's a point at which assimilation is good and a point at which their culture becomes part of ours. For example, if all the Italians that came decided that they were going to eat like Americans now, we wouldn't have pizza.

    The kind of assimilation where they stop speaking their native language takes a couple of generations. The Polish immigrants used to have this idea in their heads that someday they'd all go back to Poland. Two or three generations down the line, they aren't.


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