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Thread: Obama, With Reluctance, Returns to Action in Iraq

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    Re: Obama, With Reluctance, Returns to Action in Iraq

    I see Mr. Obama's rear guard is especially busy trying to cover his fanny at the moment. The disasters we are seeing around the world are the natural result of six years of limp-wristed weakness and dereliction by a person who resents the very country whose interests he is sworn to defend. I can't prove that Obama wishes the U.S. ill--but if he did, he could hardly be doing a better job of harming it in just about every way possible.

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    Re: Obama, With Reluctance, Returns to Action in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    I have to be amused by Conservatives who want us to fight alongside Iran's revolutionary guard to defend the Shiites who have been oppressing the Sunnii minority. Why are you allys of Iran now, I thought they were our enemies? We are now suffering the results of the incompetence of the Bush regime and of course so are the Iraqi's. I bet you don't even know that ISIS began and got their battle training in the Iraqi insurgency when our invasion resulted in a huge influx of recruits to Al Qaeda and other Sunni terrorist groups. Actions have consequences.
    Your amusement betrays your lack of insight. IRAN IS THERE BECAUSE WE AREN'T. They are filling a power vacuum left by Democrat party incompetence. This reality does not mean anyone else likes Iran, it means the world is so twisted under Obama. And as far as training-Islamist groups were around before Bush, and they are greatly increasing now. This is democrat party politics in action.

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    Re: Obama, With Reluctance, Returns to Action in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    I see Mr. Obama's rear guard is especially busy trying to cover his fanny at the moment. The disasters we are seeing around the world are the natural result of six years of limp-wristed weakness and dereliction by a person who resents the very country whose interests he is sworn to defend. I can't prove that Obama wishes the U.S. ill--but if he did, he could hardly be doing a better job of harming it in just about every way possible.
    Absolutely. This is the endgame of democrat policies.

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    Re: Obama, With Reluctance, Returns to Action in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Sorry thats untrue-Obama could have obtained the SOFA agreement-its not some insurmountable task-and the Iraqi's and our own military advised him to stay in iraq. Note how fast it came along when we sent in special forces.
    Errr, no, he was trying to. I was there when it was going down.
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    Re: Obama, With Reluctance, Returns to Action in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Errr, no, he was trying to. I was there when it was going down.
    So you must have been working with Maliki when Lindsey Graham and Lieberman were negotiating the new SOFA agreement when Obama promised a follow up force but never gave numbers, thus cancelling the agreement.

    You also must have been familiar with both US forces and the Iraqi military saying they needed US boots on the ground.

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    Re: Obama, With Reluctance, Returns to Action in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    So you must have been working with Maliki when Lindsey Graham and Lieberman were negotiating the new SOFA agreement when Obama promised a follow up force but never gave numbers, thus cancelling the agreement.

    You also must have been familiar with both US forces and the Iraqi military saying they needed US boots on the ground.
    That's not what cancelled the agreement. That would be Shia politicians bowing to their constituencies, succumbing to populism, when they knew it wasn't in their best interests. Everyone knows (everyone knowledgeable on the situation) the US should've stayed in Iraq. But internal Iraqi politics is what stopped that, not Obama.
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    Re: Obama, With Reluctance, Returns to Action in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    That's not what cancelled the agreement. That would be Shia politicians bowing to their constituencies, succumbing to populism, when they knew it wasn't in their best interests. Everyone knows (everyone knowledgeable on the situation) the US should've stayed in Iraq. But internal Iraqi politics is what stopped that, not Obama.
    You know the internal discussions because you were there, right? Or is that the word on the street?

    Why did Obama take credit for pulling out of the Presidential debates? He said he did it because he didn't want to be bogged down-his words.
    Why is he now saying bad intelligence is to blame?

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    Re: Obama, With Reluctance, Returns to Action in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    You know the internal discussions because you were there, right?
    Right.

    Or is that the word on the street?
    That, too.

    Why did Obama take credit for pulling out of the Presidential debates? He said he did it because he didn't want to be bogged down-his words.
    The same reason those Shia politicians didn't support renewing the SOFA: populism.

    Why is he now saying bad intelligence is to blame?
    To blame for what? SOFA breaking down?
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    Re: Obama, With Reluctance, Returns to Action in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Swit View Post
    Yeah I already posted that wikipedia like... it back up my point. How could Obama have accomplished the extesion. You said it was easy and the wiki page doesn't go into the detail of alternate realities / how things could have gone under different circumstanses
    You would have to read the entire link and you obviously haven't done that.

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    Re: Obama, With Reluctance, Returns to Action in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    You are factually incorrect about Iraq, see the included video.

    After the video, ponder the fact that Obama is now blaming bad intelligence for the disaster in Iraq-the SAME excuse Bush used, except he was vilified for it.
    Leftists should be forced to watch this every day and then made to answer questions.

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