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    Re: Obama, With Reluctance, Returns to Action in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    like Al queada, their main beef is a US presence in the region, and our support for Israel....saying it's all about us invading Iraq is inaccurate.

    they came to prominence in the syrian civil war though....
    So how exactly was this Obama's doing then?

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    Re: Obama, With Reluctance, Returns to Action in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Im saying that obama has contradicted himself on his reasons for pulling out of Iraq-AND when its politically expedient-but nobodies buying it. The election is less than 3 months off.
    Except for the pestering facts that:

    1. That deadline was imposed under the Bush administration
    and 2. That Obama tried to extend it but Iraqi parliment refused.

    On a separate note. Yes Obama had no right (IMO) to claim credit for th troop withdrawl as it was actually negotiated under G.W. Bush

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    Re: Obama, With Reluctance, Returns to Action in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Again, you aren't familiar with the facts of the case. You are now simply repeating Obama's long discredited excuse, and tragically you are doing it AFTER we know the facts.
    I need education.... can you provide the information?

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    Re: Obama, With Reluctance, Returns to Action in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Swit View Post
    Except for the pestering facts that:

    1. That deadline was imposed under the Bush administration
    and 2. That Obama tried to extend it but Iraqi parliment refused.

    On a separate note. Yes Obama had no right (IMO) to claim credit for th troop withdrawl as it was actually negotiated under G.W. Bush
    Dude, nobody is buying the argument you are selling.

    Obama is POTUS. Obama is Chief of Staff. Obama has contradicted himself. Obama is responsible.

    This isn't rocket science.

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    Re: Obama, With Reluctance, Returns to Action in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Dude, nobody is buying the argument you are selling.

    Obama is POTUS. Obama is Chief of Staff. Obama has contradicted himself. Obama is responsible.

    This isn't rocket science.
    In above, I meant to type "Obama is Executive in Chief".

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    Re: Obama, With Reluctance, Returns to Action in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Obama, With Reluctance, Returns to Action in Iraq
    By PETER BAKERAUG. 7, 2014



    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/08/wo...tion.html?_r=0

    So Obama pulled out of Iraq at all costs, and this is the result.

    This is what happens when people vote for Democrats.
    Oh that's great. What's most disturbing about all this is that there isn't some grand strategic plan, this isn't being done in some coordinated effort with the Iraqis/Syrians/Iranians/Kurds to wipe out ISIS and finish them off. It's just the big bad US deciding, "You know, we haven't blown up anyone in a while... let's just lob a few missiles at that target over there and show them who's boss." A lot of people on this forum get on Republicans for their foreign policy, but at least when they go in, they hit hard and make you feel it. The fact is that today, the Taliban isn't running Afghanistan and Saddam is six feet under. What did eight years of Clinton running around lobbing missile here and there lead to? 9/11 that's what.

    So of my Republican friends may actually applaud this effort... I stress the words may because as people like US Conservative haven't shown, they wouldn't offer him a break even if he came up with the cure for Cancer. But you're just as much idiots as anyone else if you do so, because all these strikes will end up doing is making a bigger enemy of ISIS. This will have ZERO effect on ISIS and their ability to wage war. Unless those airstrikes are coordinated with a ground offensive, they'll be recovered within a month... if they haven't already.

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    Re: Obama, With Reluctance, Returns to Action in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    Oh that's great. What's most disturbing about all this is that there isn't some grand strategic plan, this isn't being done in some coordinated effort with the Iraqis/Syrians/Iranians/Kurds to wipe out ISIS and finish them off. It's just the big bad US deciding, "You know, we haven't blown up anyone in a while... let's just lob a few missiles at that target over there and show them who's boss." A lot of people on this forum get on Republicans for their foreign policy, but at least when they go in, they hit hard and make you feel it. The fact is that today, the Taliban isn't running Afghanistan and Saddam is six feet under. What did eight years of Clinton running around lobbing missile here and there lead to? 9/11 that's what.

    So of my Republican friends may actually applaud this effort... I stress the words may because as people like US Conservative haven't shown, they wouldn't offer him a break even if he came up with the cure for Cancer. But you're just as much idiots as anyone else if you do so, because all these strikes will end up doing is making a bigger enemy of ISIS. This will have ZERO effect on ISIS and their ability to wage war. Unless those airstrikes are coordinated with a ground offensive, they'll be recovered within a month... if they haven't already.
    Obama's actions are killing these innocents and he spit on every veteran and service member-dead and living-when he pulled out of Iraq.

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    Re: Obama, With Reluctance, Returns to Action in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Obama's actions are killing these innocents and he spit on every veteran and service member-dead and living-when he pulled out of Iraq.
    I'm confused. Are you saying that him pulling out is killing innocents or that he is attacking now is killing innocents? Also, at some point, Iraq has to stand on it's own doesn't?

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    Re: Obama, With Reluctance, Returns to Action in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    Also, at some point, Iraq has to stand on it's own doesn't?
    Yes, but that point wasn't reached, and would not have been reached for several more years.

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    Re: Obama, With Reluctance, Returns to Action in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    I'm confused. Are you saying that him pulling out is killing innocents or that he is attacking now is killing innocents? Also, at some point, Iraq has to stand on it's own doesn't?
    In US Conservatives eyes this will instantly happen when a republican is elected president (if that ever happens again). Then referring to a past president's failure will become his hobby.

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