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    Re: James Brady Death ruled a Homicide.

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    But what does it achieve?
    As another poster noted, nothing but political sensationalism.

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    Re: James Brady Death ruled a Homicide.

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    Except he was 73 years old.
    What does that have to do with anything? If his death was premature because of the health consequences of his injury...he not only lost decades of quality of life, he lost years of quantity of life as well.

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    Re: James Brady Death ruled a Homicide.

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    she was not. She was a freshman at Yale when this happened. two of her good friends (who did their best to protect her from the unwanted spotlight after this incident) at Yale were well known (now) actors Bronson Pinchot and David Hyde Pierce. I knew Bronson pretty well since we were in the same hall freshman year and in the same residential college the next three. as a result, I met JF a bunch of times and sat with her at various meals. She was understandably upset with this incident and the fact that she, a freshman who made a real effort not to be any different than other 18 year old students, had secret service agents following her around didn't make her life any easier. I have never been all that interested in celebrities but I sure developed a lot of respect for her putting up with what she did and how she reacted. same with her two friends (who were not celebrities at the time)

    I never had any use for Sarah Brady and what she did following her husband's shooting but what happened to James Brady was a real tragedy. its sad the SS guys didn't cut Hinkley in half when he started shooting
    I have that same respect for Jodie Foster. I recall when incredibly stupid reporters asked about her relationship with John Hinkley and she had to immediately cut them off with: I have no relationship with Mr. Hinkley. As for the secret service not cutting Hinkley in half, that would have only happened if they had seen it coming in time to prevent the shooting. After the John F. Kennedy assassination, if the assassin or attempted assassin survives the initial altercation, the secret service protects the culprit at almost the same level as they protect the president as the goal is to get to the bottom of what happened.....whether it was a lone assassin or a conspiracy. They do not want a repeat of what happened with Harvey Oswald.

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    Re: James Brady Death ruled a Homicide.

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Truth and justice. However for John Hinckley, it will barely matter. He was given an insanity verdict over the shooting to begin with. If it's brought to trial again, his lawyer will likely have him plead the insanity defense again. It will be a formality.
    Yup.

    I am no legal eagle, but could he be tried again? He already went to trial for the same act, can he be tried again for the same act - just calling it something different?

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    Re: James Brady Death ruled a Homicide.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    I totally agree with you. This is lunacy.

    Especially because the man who was accused of the shooting was already found not guilty by reason of insanity. He has been prosecuted and found not guilty because he was insane, making this a homicide will not change the lunacy he was suffering from at that time.
    And he is not likely to be charged again. However it's not lunacy to reclassify an attempted murder as a homicide if the shooting was the cause of death. At least it give's Brady's family some closure. I really do not give a damn about John Hinckley.

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    Re: James Brady Death ruled a Homicide.

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    James Brady had brain damage from the gunshot to his head ... but he was far from brain-dead.
    His campaign for the passage of the Brady bill was assisted by his wife but it wasn't her idea ... it was his.
    Ronald Reagan who was shot and almost killed in the same hail of bullets, voiced his support for the Brady Bill, saying the 1981 assassination attempt might have never happened if the Brady Bill had been law. This reversed his 1975 stance on handgun control.
    Like so many human beings, a personal assault and tragedy reversed his views on gun control.
    Sarah supported her husbands bill but to imply that she was the only proponent of it is a fallacious construct.
    Actually the Brady Bill would not have stopped Hinkley from getting the 25 caliber pistol he uses in the assassination attempt.

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    Re: James Brady Death ruled a Homicide.

    No statute of limitations on murder. You nail someone in the head and they die from it why does time matter. Get a rope for Mr. Hinckley.

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    Re: James Brady Death ruled a Homicide.

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    So if you shoot a person, they survive and die twenty years later it can be called a homicide.

    Reagan aide Jim Brady's death ruled homicide
    From my perspective, we're talking two different things here - we're talking about a coroner's findings (a medical/scientific cause of death) and a legal finding (homicide). Unless the coroner acted in a most political and unscientific/medical way, which I've seen no evidence of, the findings are supported by science. This doesn't mean, however, that a prosecutor is required to accept the finding in a legal sense and lay charges against Hinkley.

    It is quite interesting from a legal perspective. Imagine the possibilities for expansion of the principle - is it possible for a mother to be involved in a homicide if her actions during pregnancy led to her child dying prematurely after birth? There are many such possibilities and don't doubt that some enterprising prosecutor, out to make a name for him/herself, won't pounce at the chance.
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    Re: James Brady Death ruled a Homicide.

    How can Hinckley be convicted of murder when he was already found not guilty of attempted murder?
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    Re: James Brady Death ruled a Homicide.

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post

    Why? If professional judgment holds that he is no longer dangerous, then why should they not work toward rehabilitation?
    Their professional judgement has been erroneous over and over in the case of Hinckley. Repeatedly after feeling he was safe to be in public they have found his attempt to be a penpal with Ted Bundy, Lynnette "Squeaky" Fromme, and attempted to get Charles Manson's address. After being banned from his contact or material on Jodie Foster they have found her pictures in her room and attempt to obtain nude drawings of her.

    Even the AMA has been in favor of abolishing the insanity defense in criminal trials. The states of Kansas, Montana, Idaho, Utah, do not even allow the insanity defense.

    I don't see no reason to return to trial to allow him to bask in the tv spotlights either. If he is insane then keep his butt off the streets. He has fooled the psych specialists one too many times.

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