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    Re: Judge rules Ten Commandments monument must go

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Nope. The first comandment is not the origin or beginning of any religion.
    Maybe you don't know what it is?
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    Re: Judge rules Ten Commandments monument must go

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Nope. The first comandment is not the origin or beginning of any religion.
    How is this statement not demanding that one believe in the god of Moses?

    Thou shalt have no other gods before me

    Granted it is not the origin of religion, but it's the first requirement within the tablet to adopt this particular religion.
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    Re: Judge rules Ten Commandments monument must go

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    Maybe you don't know what it is?
    You're the one who asked what it was, which means you don't know. You had asked me, which means you know that I know.

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    Re: Judge rules Ten Commandments monument must go

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    How is this statement not demanding that one believe in the god of Moses?

    Thou shalt have no other gods before me

    Granted it is not the origin of religion, but it's the first requirement within the tablet to adopt this particular religion.
    It's not the State making the comand any more than your post is making the command. Both your post and the State are merly saying the command is part of the religion. Neither you nore the State is requiring anyone to obay that command.

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    Re: Judge rules Ten Commandments monument must go

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    It's not the State making the comand.
    So we agree if it has nothing to do with "the State" and is only a religious presentation, it does not belong in public space individually with no other religious presentations (as was the case in one that was allowed because it was part of an overall historic type display and was not standalone.).
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    Re: Judge rules Ten Commandments monument must go

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    So we agree if it has nothing to do with "the State" and is only a religious presentation, it does not belong in public space individually with no other religious presentations (as was the case in one that was allowed because it was part of an overall historic type display and was not standalone.).
    All religions of the people diserve to be presented in the public. It's part of who we are.

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    Re: Judge rules Ten Commandments monument must go

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    All religions of the people diserve to be presented in the public. It's part of who we are.
    IF all, then I agree, but to date, pretty much only Judeo/Christian displays are allowed to be installed in a permanent fashion.
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    Re: Judge rules Ten Commandments monument must go

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    You never knew because cultural vestiges like religious symbols are benign. They do not establish a state religion or give any religion municipal power. The 10 comandments are the same. Their presence doesn't brake the wall of separation and their absence doesn't harm Christians. Both sides are working together to waist everyone's time & money.
    Only because these displays are a waste of time and money. If everyone just gave up on them, they wouldn't cost anything or take any time, there would be no court cases, etc. People need to stop trying to commemorate their religious views on public land, period.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Judge rules Ten Commandments monument must go

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    All religions of the people diserve to be presented in the public. It's part of who we are.
    Says who? If a religion wants to present itself to the public, they can do it on private property. That's what churches do, after all, isn't it?
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    Re: Judge rules Ten Commandments monument must go

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    You're the one who asked what it was, which means you don't know. You had asked me, which means you know that I know.
    I know what it means. That's why it can't be on the public square. You just want to dance around it because you know it's true.
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