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    Re: Judge rules Ten Commandments monument must go

    Quote Originally Posted by Swit View Post
    That it is a Federally recognized religion and that due to the 1st ammendment to the constitution goverment may not make preferencial judgements of one religion over another.
    You need to read the amendment, that's not what it says. It also protects the practices of religion. The whole business is bull****. Displaying the 10 commandments has nothing to do with any law.
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    Re: Judge rules Ten Commandments monument must go

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You need to read the amendment, that's not what it says. It also protects the practices of religion. The whole business is bull****. Displaying the 10 commandments has nothing to do with any law.
    Sure.... personally I agree.... but the the Satanists need to be allowed to present their speech as well if others are allowed or none at all. Open Pandora's box be preparared to reap the whirlwind.

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    Re: Judge rules Ten Commandments monument must go

    I would also just like to say that your, my or anyone else's opinion doesn't matter as the interpretataion of the constitution is laid upon the justices of the USSC. Doesn't really matter if you or I disagree on this matter as it is the reality of the situation.

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    Re: Judge rules Ten Commandments monument must go

    Quote Originally Posted by Swit View Post
    Sure.... personally I agree.... but the the Satanists need to be allowed to present their speech as well if others are allowed or none at all. Open Pandora's box be preparared to reap the whirlwind.
    I haven't heard them say they want to put up a monument on that site, have you?
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    Re: Judge rules Ten Commandments monument must go

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I haven't heard them say they want to put up a monument on that site, have you?
    Actually, yes. The Satanic Temple has applied to present a display in Kansas, but the state (after allowing and erecticting a display of the ten commandmenst) declared a moratorium after the fact.

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    Re: Judge rules Ten Commandments monument must go

    I predict crickets: American

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    Re: Judge rules Ten Commandments monument must go

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    That is the Bill of Rights not the Ten Commandments. That is historical fact easily proven. http://www.supremecourt.gov/about/symbolsoflaw.pdf

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    You did look at the figures around him right? Notice anyone missing? There isnt a Jesus on that wall. Nor are the ten commandments written out they are represented as slabs with roman numerals on them.

    Zeus Father of Gods and Men; God of Heavens and Fertility is in the Great Hall of the Supreme Court Building. The tortuous and the hare are on the building as well as Confucius.

    But really the Supreme Court Building has zero to do with the founders; it was finished in 1935.

    you better look again, that is Moses holding the 10 commandments,...Moses is the law giver..... he holds 2 tablets.

    Moses is also displayed at the court, with him sitting and both the tablets on each side.

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    we were not discussing the supreme court and the founders, but that some laws and ldeas of the founders, reflect Christianity.
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    Re: Judge rules Ten Commandments monument must go

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    That is the Bill of Rights not the Ten Commandments. That is historical fact easily proven. http://www.supremecourt.gov/about/symbolsoflaw.pdf

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    One official Supreme Court document, he found, cited a letter from sculptor Adolph A. Weinman that said the “pylon” carved with Roman numerals I to X “symbolizes the first ten amendments to the Constitution.” But the letter was anomalous; it didn’t have a number of certifying marks that were typical of others.

    So he continued looking and after calling in some assistance in his hunt for evidence, he found a 1975 official U.S. Supreme Court Handbook, prepared under the direction of Mark Cannon, administrative assistant to the chief justice. It said, “Directly above the Bench are two central figures, depicting Majesty of the Law and Power of Government. Between them is a tableau of the Ten Commandments…”

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    Re: Judge rules Ten Commandments monument must go

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You need to read the amendment, that's not what it says. It also protects the practices of religion. The whole business is bull****. Displaying the 10 commandments has nothing to do with any law.
    Displaying the 10 commandments as 'rules' in a government agency would step over the line into establishment of religion....BUT....I know of absolutely no government entity at any level who does that. But to display them as a historical reference to the ancient law as many religious symbols are used on federal buildings or as a work of art? How can that possibly be interpreted as establishment of religion by anybody with any intellectual honesty whatsoever? Given how prominent religious history and practice is to so many people, to deny the ability to recognize that as part of our history and culture is a clear violation of the intent of the First Amendment both in the area of religion and free speech.

    The only reason we have these ridiculous lawsuits is that the ACLU and other opportunistic groups or lawyers find them financially lucrative to file. There is a little known provision in the Civil Rights Act that allows lawyers who file and prevail in Civil Rights actions to recoup their expenses, including reasonable compensation, for their trouble. The federal government has provided such compensation in the past and of course the 'expenses' and 'reasonable compensation' are usually substantial.
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