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    Re: Judge rules Ten Commandments monument must go

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    I wonder how the USSC is able to keep its 10 commandments and the image it displays of Moses.
    Moses is depicted as just one of a group of law-makers. The Ten Commandments are not on the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court has depicted scrolls with Roman numerals I to X. The architect of the building has said that represents the Bill of Rights.
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    Re: Judge rules Ten Commandments monument must go

    Quote Originally Posted by Swit View Post
    now look at my responce again. Fenton was arguing against the constitution being amendable (living) and trying to use those very same amendments (specifically the establishment clause of the 1st Amendment) to back up his previous arguments. See the irony there?
    There's no irony what so ever.

    I argued the Constitution was not a " living breathing document" and that the words that make up the Constitution have never changed their meaning.

    There's only one meaning for the words " Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."

    The Judge and those who agree with his activist ruling are wrong to assert that the posting of the Ten Commandments in a Public building equates to new laws being passed by Congress supporting that religion.

    And yes, the judges ruling is a attempt to amend the Constitution by redefining the clear and distinct definition of the words that make up the establishment clause.
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    Re: Judge rules Ten Commandments monument must go

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    I don't want to say Christian founding, however in forming the ideas and our laws of this land, the founders did express statements of Christianity in creating them.
    No they didnt.

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    Re: Judge rules Ten Commandments monument must go

    Quote Originally Posted by fedup View Post
    Would you feel the same way if it were a satanist monument or a monument displaying verses from the Quaran? I'll bet you that the same fundamentalists fighting to keep the Ten Commandments up would be fighting tear it down if it were displaying something from any religion but Christianity.
    What historic precedence does Satanism have in America?
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    Re: Judge rules Ten Commandments monument must go

    Quote Originally Posted by OKgrannie View Post
    Moses is depicted as just one of a group of law-makers. The Ten Commandments are not on the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court has depicted scrolls with Roman numerals I to X. The architect of the building has said that represents the Bill of Rights.

    Where do Moses and the 10 Commandments appear?

    http://www.christianheritagemins.org...mmandments.htmeast_frieze_middle3.jpg

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    Re: Judge rules Ten Commandments monument must go

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    No they didnt.
    yes they did.

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    Re: Judge rules Ten Commandments monument must go

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    There's no irony what so ever.

    I argued the Constitution was not a " living breathing document" and that the words that make up the Constitution have never changed their meaning.

    There's only one meaning for the words " Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."

    The Judge and those who agree with his activist ruling are wrong to assert that the posting of the Ten Commandments in a Public building equates to new laws being passed by Congress supporting that religion.

    And yes, the judges ruling is a attempt to amend the Constitution by redefining the clear and distinct definition of the words that make up the establishment clause.
    Refrences to the constitution being a living document are refering directly to the amendment process. here

    if it was not "living" it could not contain amenments.

    the quote you are using comes from the 1st amendment which by definition could not be present if the document wasn't "living"

    in essence you are denying the very basis of your entire argument. Ultimately it doesn't really matter what you or I think anway as reality is reality and the process works precisely in the amnner which I have described. Whether you, I or anyone else for that matter likes it or not.

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    Re: Judge rules Ten Commandments monument must go

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    What historic precedence does Satanism have in America?
    That it is a Federally recognized religion and that due to the 1st ammendment to the constitution goverment may not make preferencial judgements of one religion over another.

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    Re: Judge rules Ten Commandments monument must go

    That is the Bill of Rights not the Ten Commandments. That is historical fact easily proven. http://www.supremecourt.gov/about/symbolsoflaw.pdf

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    You did look at the figures around him right? Notice anyone missing? There isnt a Jesus on that wall. Nor are the ten commandments written out they are represented as slabs with roman numerals on them.

    Zeus Father of Gods and Men; God of Heavens and Fertility is in the Great Hall of the Supreme Court Building. The tortuous and the hare are on the building as well as Confucius.

    But really the Supreme Court Building has zero to do with the founders; it was finished in 1935.

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    Re: Judge rules Ten Commandments monument must go

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
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    I get so sick of this idiotic crap. Nowhere in the Constitution is this judge's decision supported. No law has been passed by Congress that gives preference of one religion over any other in this case. This is nothing more than some dumbass getting all butt-hurt over the Ten being displayed and deciding to sue to get it removed.
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