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    Re: Judge rules Ten Commandments monument must go

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    No, not really.

    Because first, posting the Ten Commandments in a public building doesn't " make laws respecting the establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof " and second, our Country has a History believe it or not.

    If you want to ignore that because it threatens you somehow thats on you.
    Posting a religious icon in a public place is establishing support of a religion.

    Just because America was largely founded by Christians doesn't make it any more of a Christian nation than my use of a Chinese brand toaster makes my Pop Tarts Chinese.
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    Re: Judge rules Ten Commandments monument must go

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    What difference does it make if the majority of the public approves?
    For the same reason it matters what we do regardless of what the public approves of, example #1 - slavery, example #2 - civil rights, example #3 interracial marriage, example #4 -same sex marriage, and so on.
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    Re: Judge rules Ten Commandments monument must go

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    There is no god, hence it's not god's law. And regardless of what you believe, it's not the law in the US and never has been. I sure hope I don't represent anything akin to a xian, much less a born again extremist.

    Sounds like a opinion to me.

    You can't through scienctific proof or evidence deny the existence of a creator.

    Well, Liberals are pretty scientifically ignorant in general.

    The Big bang, which so many people attribute to the creation of our Universe 14 Billion years ago actually lends credence to the existence of a creator.

    It violates the First and Second Laws of Thermodynamics for one thing.

    It was by definition, CREATION out of nothing which contradicts ths first law of thermodynamics.

    To be born again is not extreme. Its simply a faith.

    Now to force those to adhere to your way of thinking or to your faith via death threats IS extreme. Like whats happening on a Country wide scale in Iraq right now

    But you guys seem to save your criticisms for Christians for some reason.

    I think it's a personal issue and you shouldn't inflict your hang ups onto other people.

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    Re: Judge rules Ten Commandments monument must go

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    You didn't reply directly to what I quoted. So let me ask you directly. So you have no problem with Islamic scripture being posted on government buildings too? Try not to bob and weave too much as you answer this question.
    The thing you're missing is that atheists forcing religions to take monuments down is no different than religious groups forcing atheists to put religious monuments up.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Judge rules Ten Commandments monument must go

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Sounds like a opinion to me.

    You can't through scienctific proof or evidence deny the existence of a creator.

    Well, Liberals are pretty scientifically ignorant in general.

    The Big bang, which so many people attribute to the creation of our Universe 14 Billion years ago actually lends credence to the existence of a creator.

    It violates the First and Second Laws of Thermodynamics for one thing.

    It was by definition, CREATION out of nothing which contradicts ths first law of thermodynamics.

    To be born again is not extreme. Its simply a faith.

    Now to force those to adhere to your way of thinking or to your faith via death threats IS extreme. Like whats happening on a Country wide scale in Iraq right now

    But you guys seem to save your criticisms for Christians for some reason.

    I think it's a personal issue and you shouldn't inflict your hang ups onto other people.
    Regardless of what you think, I should have to endure you inflicting your religion on property that is public or governmental.
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    Re: Judge rules Ten Commandments monument must go

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    Posting a religious icon in a public place is establishing support of a religion.

    Just because America was largely founded by Christians doesn't make it any more of a Christian nation than my use of a Chinese brand toaster makes my Pop Tarts Chinese.


    It is NOT ESTABLISHING A LAW.

    Jeez man.

    If they posted a copy of the Commandments, and then passed a law stating you had to folow those Commandments or else, then THAT would be a violation of our Constitution.

    The Constitution is written in English.

    Why is it so difficult for some people to comprehend ?

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    Re: Judge rules Ten Commandments monument must go

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    It was by definition, CREATION out of nothing which contradicts ths first law of thermodynamics.
    Are you trying to say the laws of physics applied prior to the existence of the universe?
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    Re: Judge rules Ten Commandments monument must go

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    For the same reason it matters what we do regardless of what the public approves of, example #1 - slavery, example #2 - civil rights, example #3 interracial marriage, example #4 -same sex marriage, and so on.
    I hate to let you in on this little factoid, but the minority doesn't always get its way. Now, can our court system alter that? Sure, but it doesn't make it right for a society...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Judge rules Ten Commandments monument must go

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    There is no god, hence it's not god's law. And regardless of what you believe, it's not the law in the US and never has been. I sure hope I don't represent anything akin to a xian, much less a born again extremist.
    The government can't inhibit the free practice of religion.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Judge rules Ten Commandments monument must go

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    It is NOT ESTABLISHING A LAW.

    Jeez man.

    If they posted a copy of the Commandments, and then passed a law stating you had to folow those Commandments or else, then THAT would be a violation of our Constitution.

    The Constitution is written in English.

    Why is it so difficult for some people to comprehend ?
    It is establishing a preference as to what religion is allowed to be publicly displayed. Which to my reading of it is against the Constitution.
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