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American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq[W:1007]

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So you honestly don't believe that it is obvious?

You don't have strong opinions about welfare? You think that the best foreign affairs policy is more obvious that the best welfare policy?

Calm down, im saying that using "its obvious" as evidence to back your claim isn't the smartest idea. Thats all.
 
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What is the Obama doctrine? I dont know anyone who can explain his foreign policy beyond it being a random clumping of seemingly unrelated issues and incoherent statements to the world.

He may not be focused on foreign policy, but it will really come home and bite him hard.

Yeah, you said it better.

And aren't they kind of biting him now? He's facing a mid term and has squat to show for 6 years in office save a Nobel Peace prize no one wants to talk about anymore. He has not one success to point to despite the fact he has only been about foreign policy for the last two years. When was there a new domestic initiative out of the White House? He's jacked there, the Tea Party has him jammed up.
 
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Yeah, you said it better.

And aren't they kind of biting him now? He's facing a mid term and has squat to show for 6 years in office save a Nobel Peace prize no one wants to talk about anymore. He has not one success to point to despite the fact he has only been about foreign policy for the last two years. When was there a new domestic initiative out of the White House? He's jacked there, the Tea Party has him jammed up.

Its been a mess but we still have 2 years of fail left. Man that nobel prize seems like a smack in the face right about now.
 
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Its been a mess but we still have 2 years of fail left. Man that nobel prize seems like a smack in the face right about now.

and you think a conservative can get anything done after six years of poisoning the political debate?
 
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I feel, which means I could be wrong, that what was lost after the military left could be regained much more easily with another 'surge'. It seems that many lessons have been learned since the withdrawal and the leaders of the other ME countries, and the Democracies, may have learned a great deal of how fragile all these things can be.

In the very least, we need a full effort on the air strikes with enough special forces boots on the ground to paint targets for air strikes as we did in the beginning of the Afghanistan war. However the goal must be to destroy ISIS. Obama is playing it stupid with his: "Err...I am just going to protect American interests and the Kurds." ISIS is quickly growing into a global threat...not just a threat to the Iraqis. Obama thinks it is only about sectarian issues in Iraq. If we do not address the issue in Iraq and Syria, we will soon be facing them in New York or Chicago.
 
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and you think a conservative can get anything done after six years of poisoning the political debate?

I think that conservatives get things done, and the world actually respects them. Its when we have pushover chumps like Obama that the wolves come out.
 
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Calm down, im saying that using "its obvious" as evidence to back your claim isn't the smartest idea. Thats all.

Don't worry, no one every accused me of being smart.
 
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In the very least, we need a full effort on the air strikes with enough special forces boots on the ground to paint targets for air strikes as we did in the beginning of the Afghanistan war. However the goal must be to destroy ISIS. Obama is playing it stupid with his: "Err...I am just going to protect American interests and the Kurds." ISIS is quickly growing into a global threat...not just a threat to the Iraqis. Obama thinks it is only about sectarian issues in Iraq. If we do not address the issue in Iraq and Syria, we will soon be facing them in New York or Chicago.

the kurds can paint the targets for us
 
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In the very least, we need a full effort on the air strikes with enough special forces boots on the ground to paint targets for air strikes as we did in the beginning of the Afghanistan war. However the goal must be to destroy ISIS. Obama is playing it stupid with his: "Err...I am just going to protect American interests and the Kurds." ISIS is quickly growing into a global threat...not just a threat to the Iraqis. Obama thinks it is only about sectarian issues in Iraq. If we do not address the issue in Iraq and Syria, we will soon be facing them in New York or Chicago.

We should provide all that is needed but allow the dirtiest fighting to be done amongst the arabs. They dont play by the wests PC rules of engagement and therefore would be more effective.
 
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I think that conservatives get things done, and the world actually respects them. Its when we have pushover chumps like Obama that the wolves come out.


that is not what i meant.

how are conservatives going to get the opposing political party to negotatie after they have spent 8 years kicking them in the nuts?
 
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I think that conservatives get things done, and the world actually respects them. Its when we have pushover chumps like Obama that the wolves come out.

So what have conservatives accomplished during the past 6 years?

Have they eliminated welfare?

Did they create stability in the middle east?

Did they repeal Obamacare?

Taxcuts?

Protect marrage as an instutution between a man and a woman?

Block gay rights?

Eliminate abortions?

When did they do anything?
 
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that is not what i meant.

how are conservatives going to get the opposing political party to negotatie after they have spent 8 years kicking them in the nuts?

In light of the actions of the democrat party and President you really should be asking the opposite question.
 
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Yeah, you said it better.

And aren't they kind of biting him now? He's facing a mid term and has squat to show for 6 years in office save a Nobel Peace prize no one wants to talk about anymore. He has not one success to point to despite the fact he has only been about foreign policy for the last two years. When was there a new domestic initiative out of the White House? He's jacked there, the Tea Party has him jammed up.

Obama's idea of foreign policy was his "apology tour'.
 
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The Kurds are hiding from ISIS's newly acquired artillery. Terrorists with crew served weapons. :doh

Nothing political, but where are they getting these weapons from? Who the hell is selling them weapons, or buying oil from their oil fields?

Just seems to me that if the world would stop supplying them, they would dry up and disapear.
 
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the kurds can paint the targets for us

Nope. We need US special forces with solid military training to do that. Let the Kurds keep doing what they are doing just as the northern alliance did in Afghanistan.
 
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We should provide all that is needed but allow the dirtiest fighting to be done amongst the arabs. They dont play by the wests PC rules of engagement and therefore would be more effective.

Agreed. The Kurds are willing and able to push back ISIS if we give them the weapons and support them with air strikes.
 
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Its been a mess but we still have 2 years of fail left. Man that nobel prize seems like a smack in the face right about now.

I get this image of a large dead and smelly bird around his neck.

He is very desperate. Here he is promoting a war over the death of one American journalist when the assassination of Ambassador Stephens warranted only a still unfulfilled promise of justice through the FBI.....in order for this to fly, by rights, the American public should be demanding a reconciliation there.
 
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Nothing political, but where are they getting these weapons from? Who the hell is selling them weapons, or buying oil from their oil fields?

Just seems to me that if the world would stop supplying them, they would dry up and disapear.

Many were captured in Syria and Iraq when they overtook the opposition. Others are provided by rich donors. Obama wanted to help arm these same terrorists when they were just in Syria.
 
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I get this image of a large dead and smelly bird around his neck.

He is very desperate. Here he is promoting a war over the death of one American journalist when the assassination of Ambassador Stephens warranted only a still unfulfilled promise of justice through the FBI.....in order for this to fly, by rights, the American public should be demanding a reconciliation there.

Absolutely but the US public is so ignorant of the situation (let alone Obamas history in office) that these dichotomies are rarely mentioned.
 
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That was the first "FAIL"

The came Arab Spring and.....well it's a long list and my fingers grow weary

And he has mucked it up every step of the way.
 
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I was refering more to their late pm programming.



About half of them do. but even more disinformed voters votes republican these days.

Like people who have been disinformed by numerous Fox News contributors who have claimed that 40% of our governments spending is borrowed. Or that the labor force participation rate is lower than at any point since the great depression.

many are also disinformed by tea party posts on facebook. Like people who believe that muslums are exempt from Obamacare, or that Obama has issued more executive orders than every other president combined.

Those are opinion programs, not hard news. Do you know the difference? What exactly is it that liberalism stands for that makes any economic, social sense at all? What percentage of our debt do you think we borrow and what is the labor participation rate during the Obama term?

You don't think the MSM has their agenda? How about MSNBC? CNN? You seem to have selective outrage
 
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