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American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq[W:1007]

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Conservative said:
Really? Who do you negotiate with when it comes to al Qaeda or ISIS? Diplomacy works well with nations but not people whose ideology says convert or die. You have no idea what a Caliphate is and how radical these people are.
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Actually, that isn't who I said to negotiate with. Seriously, think a little and read better. I said negotiate with those who might be helpful, as the British did with their Irish issue. Instead of building up the rep of ISIS, demean it by not helping it recruit, and making allies where we can. In other words, be smart instead of just foolishly tearing **** apart.
 
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Wiggen said:
Your political lean and your posts tell me pretty much what I need to know about you.
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Another ignorant statement. My political lean? so, you are making the brilliant statement that someone's political lean can tell you if you are a racist or not? What was George Wallace's "political lean"?

Go ahead, prove me wrong, show me some racist quotes in the posts that you are refering to. You still know nothing, yet the entire board is getting a pretty good idea about how you think.
 
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Boo Radley said:
Actually, that isn't who I said to negotiate with. Seriously, think a little and read better. I said negotiate with those who might be helpful, as the British did with their Irish issue. Instead of building up the rep of ISIS, demean it by not helping it recruit, and making allies where we can. In other words, be smart instead of just foolishly tearing **** apart.
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Who do you feel might be helpful to negotiate with?
 
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Anthony60 said:
Another ignorant statement. My political lean? so, you are making the brilliant statement that someone's political lean can tell you if you are a racist or not? What was George Wallace's "political lean"?

Go ahead, prove me wrong, show me some racist quotes in the posts that you are refering to. You still know nothing, yet the entire board is getting a pretty good idea about how you think.
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George Wallace was a far right conservative. Here's a history lesson for you - the extreme conservatives and hell even the moderate ones - opposed integration and the civil rights movement. The Liberals were the guiding force behind both. Any Republican support for either of those concepts vanished when you purged your party of any real moderates or - god forbid - liberal Republicans.

I think everybody has you and your ilk figured out pretty well. You were opposed to the President from day one, and you even created an entire movement - the Tea Party - to give strident voice to that opposition. Most of that gut level hatred expressed by these loons was based on the fact that the President is black. You can deny that all you want. It doesn't make it not true.

To the best of my knowledge, I never called you a racist. I don't know whether you are or not. What I do know is that you occupy the far right side of the political spectrum, and it's not exactly difficult to attribute certain beliefs to those who reside there.
 
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Wiggen said:
George Wallace was a far right conservative. Here's a history lesson for you - the extreme conservatives and hell even the moderate ones - opposed integration and the civil rights movement. The Liberals were the guiding force behind both. Any Republican support for either of those concepts vanished when you purged your party of any real moderates or - god forbid - liberal Republicans.

I think everybody has you and your ilk figured out pretty well. You were opposed to the President from day one, and you even created an entire movement - the Tea Party - to give strident voice to that opposition. Most of that gut level hatred expressed by these loons was based on the fact that the President is black. You can deny that all you want. It doesn't make it not true.

To the best of my knowledge, I never called you a racist. I don't know whether you are or not. What I do know is that you occupy the far right side of the political spectrum, and it's not exactly difficult to attribute certain beliefs to those who reside there.
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Captain Race Card strikes again!
 
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Wiggen said:
George Wallace was a far right conservative. Here's a history lesson for you - the extreme conservatives and hell even the moderate ones - opposed integration and the civil rights movement. The Liberals were the guiding force behind both. Any Republican support for either of those concepts vanished when you purged your party of any real moderates or - god forbid - liberal Republicans.

I think everybody has you and your ilk figured out pretty well. You were opposed to the President from day one, and you even created an entire movement - the Tea Party - to give strident voice to that opposition. Most of that gut level hatred expressed by these loons was based on the fact that the President is black. You can deny that all you want. It doesn't make it not true.

To the best of my knowledge, I never called you a racist. I don't know whether you are or not. What I do know is that you occupy the far right side of the political spectrum, and it's not exactly difficult to attribute certain beliefs to those who reside there.
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Conservatives are just Democrats behaving badly, huh?
 
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Boo Radley said:
The most evil of brutality starts by dehumanizing a group. Calling them animals allows the human to do brutality because they're not human. It's a lie of course. But it's one that blinds the person calling a group animals.
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It is very naive and dangerous for people like you not to recognize that you cannot negotiate with everyone and evil exists in the world. This is evil and there is one way to handle it, destroy it. Converting or dying is the only option and that doesn't seem to bother you.
 
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Boo Radley said:
Actually, that isn't who I said to negotiate with. Seriously, think a little and read better. I said negotiate with those who might be helpful, as the British did with their Irish issue. Instead of building up the rep of ISIS, demean it by not helping it recruit, and making allies where we can. In other words, be smart instead of just foolishly tearing **** apart.
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America has done more for the Muslim world than any other country on the face of the earth. There is one thing these people want and when you finally realize that it will be too late as usual. There is no central govt, just a large group of radicals with one goal in mind. I just hope that they get people like you rather than my family first to see if you can negotiate with them.
 
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Grant said:
Who do you feel might be helpful to negotiate with?
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The Kurds for one would be good. And more moderate Sunis and Shia. Any clergy that holds influence but not as radical.
 
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Grant said:
That might be true in the case of Belgium, but not ISIS. Who is going to stop them?
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Anyone who doesn't really want them. They are not a mighty power. They just have a power void in Iraq, created by the destabilization of war.
 
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Conservative said:
It is very naive and dangerous for people like you not to recognize that you cannot negotiate with everyone and evil exists in the world. This is evil and there is one way to handle it, destroy it. Converting or dying is the only option and that doesn't seem to bother you.
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As I said, it's easier to destory, so the lazy go there right off the bat. but as I showed, historically, we've done better with actual hard working diplomacy.
 
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Conservative said:
America has done more for the Muslim world than any other country on the face of the earth. There is one thing these people want and when you finally realize that it will be too late as usual. There is no central govt, just a large group of radicals with one goal in mind. I just hope that they get people like you rather than my family first to see if you can negotiate with them.
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Self grandizing appeals to a certain audience, but I doubt it does much to convince that part of the world. They do have some actual real issues with us. You won't convince them by just saying we're great!
 
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Boo Radley said:
As I said, it's easier to destory, so the lazy go there right off the bat. but as I showed, historically, we've done better with actual hard working diplomacy.
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Are you really this naive? How many people have to be headed for not converting for you to realize that you don't negotiate with evil?
 
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Boo Radley said:
Self grandizing appeals to a certain audience, but I doubt it does much to convince that part of the world. They do have some actual real issues with us. You won't convince them by just saying we're great!
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Our actions should speak louder than words but words seem to be what you buy. You totally ignore that America has never demanded land or oil in any war we have ever participated in but we have freed millions. Thousands have died for Muslims and don't recall us getting any oil fields for it. You buy what you are told and totally ignore history.
 
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Grant said:
Conservatives are just Democrats behaving badly, huh?
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No, conservatives are those who want to maintain the status quo - whether it was segregation or anything else. The fact that they were Democrats doesn't make them less conservative. The biggest collection of right wing assholes you could possibly think of were Southern Democrats. Thankfully, after the passage of the Civil Rights Act, most of them became Republicans.
 
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Boo Radley said:
Self grandizing appeals to a certain audience, but I doubt it does much to convince that part of the world. They do have some actual real issues with us. You won't convince them by just saying we're great!
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Hawks and war mongers will not concede that Muslims in the Middle East could actually have some legitimate issues with the US. We have minded our own p's & q's, and have been a completely benevolent super power and this anger they have towards us is inexplicable.
 
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Wiggen said:
No, conservatives are those who want to maintain the status quo - whether it was segregation or anything else. The fact that they were Democrats doesn't make them less conservative. The biggest collection of right wing assholes you could possibly think of were Southern Democrats. Thankfully, after the passage of the Civil Rights Act, most of them became Republicans.
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You, my friend, are part of the problem. Your hatred for Republicans is a sickness. We all are Americans and most of us understand personal responsibility and the role of the Federal Govt. You seem to have no concept of either and believe the Federal Government's role is to provide you whatever you need or want. Apparently you have no idea where that money comes from nor do you have any understanding that it was the Republicans that passed the civil rights act. It is sad to read your garbage.
 
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Wiggen said:
George Wallace was a far right conservative. Here's a history lesson for you - the extreme conservatives and hell even the moderate ones - opposed integration and the civil rights movement. The Liberals were the guiding force behind both. Any Republican support for either of those concepts vanished when you purged your party of any real moderates or - god forbid - liberal Republicans.

I think everybody has you and your ilk figured out pretty well. You were opposed to the President from day one, and you even created an entire movement - the Tea Party - to give strident voice to that opposition. Most of that gut level hatred expressed by these loons was based on the fact that the President is black. You can deny that all you want. It doesn't make it not true.

To the best of my knowledge, I never called you a racist. I don't know whether you are or not. What I do know is that you occupy the far right side of the political spectrum, and it's not exactly difficult to attribute certain beliefs to those who reside there.
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I'm just really kind of embarrassed for you with that post. Thanks for the revisionist history lesson. Oh, the Tea Party was formed in response to George Bush's spending, Wallace was a democrat bigot, the democrats filibustered the civil rights legislation, and I am not on the far right (unless you call upholding the Constitution far right).

Wow, I think I just struck out the side.
 
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Conservative said:
Are you really this naive? How many people have to be headed for not converting for you to realize that you don't negotiate with evil?
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We have always negotiated with our enemies, and quite successfully as well.
 
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Boo Radley said:
We have always negotiated with our enemies, and quite successfully as well.
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Our enemies have always been countries not such a radical ideology. I asked you who we negotiate and you never answered. There is no leader of that Ideology, just millions of radicals who believe their way to Allah is by killing anyone that disagrees with them. Tell me who we negotiate with?
 
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Boo Radley said:
We have always negotiated with our enemies, and quite successfully as well.
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That s not true. We did not negotiate with Japan or Nazi Germany. We did not negotiate with terrorists either...
 
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Montecresto said:
Hawks and war mongers will not concede that Muslims in the Middle East could actually have some legitimate issues with the US. We have minded our own p's & q's, and have been a completely benevolent super power and this anger they have towards us is inexplicable.
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You seem to ignore that Muslims are crating havoc around the world, not just in the ME. There has been Islamic terrorism on every continent in the world with the exception, thus far, of Antarctica. And all of this is the result of Americans involvement in the Middle East? You don't think that perhaps, as throughout history, Islam may be flexing its muscles again?

Of course blaming America for the world's problems is far easier than to consider alternative theories..
 
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