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American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq[W:1007]

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You may not have received the memo...but the Bush presidency ended 6 years ago. Since then Obama has backed fundamentalist terrorist upheavals in Egypt, Libya, and Syria, and had his head up his ass on Iraq. You ALSO may have missed that NOW...after all of this...he is engaging. And THAT show you how ****ing inept he is. If its not our business, why engage? And if it IS our business...where has he been?

But I get it. Its not his fault. He has no responsibility. Nothing is ever his responsibility.

Dude by by your reasoning Hitler shouldn't even be brought up by historians for persecuting the Jews because that was so long ago.

And I thought the repubs were all for taking responsibility for your actions. Guess I was wrong.
 
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Obama is a political coward. He shifts blame on anything he sees at the time as a negative and rapidly takes credit for anything positive. He will not take ownership of anything unless he thinks it will elevate him.

Get help. Even your avatar is seething in hatred for the man.
 
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You are very emotional aren't you? I don't hate Obama even now. I would not waste such a powerful emotion on him. I do despise the damage he has done, and is continuing to do.

Well looks to me like you are either not being honest or you're fooling yourself. I hope the ODS doesn't create too many stomach acids or push your blood pressure too high. You're only hurting yourself.
 
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It's exponentially more insightful than your desperate mitigation's and blame.

Hey, someone wants to critique the Presidents policies ? Yea fine, it's even " Patriotic" just as long as that President represents the GOP.

Critiquing Obama and his disastrous policies ? No that's not Patriotic, that's hateful, cruel and racist.:roll:

Give me a break. It's not personal, in fact, I cant think of a greater waste of energy than to become emotionally tied to a total stranger.

Of course its personal with Obama. It's a gut level hatred that becomes more and more obvious as time passes.
 
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Got it, your opinion noted. How many Americans have to die before you realize Obama incompetence in managing the peace in Iraq and poor management of the Syrian Crisis has made this country less secure? Wonder how strong ISIS would be had an arrogant Obama not abandoned the country and not negotiated a better agreement with Iraq? You buy the liberal rhetoric which continues to be the case. There is no reason we shouldn't have kept an air base in the Kurd Controlled area and there is no way American weapons would be in the hands of ISIS with strong U.S. leadership which of course we do not have. Your support for Obama is misguided at best.

Blah, blah, blah. What a steaming pantload.
 
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Dude by by your reasoning Hitler shouldn't even be brought up by historians for persecuting the Jews because that was so long ago.

And I thought the repubs were all for taking responsibility for your actions. Guess I was wrong.

the Repubs are still celebrating victory in Iraq.
 
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Got it, your opinion noted. How many Americans have to die before you realize Obama incompetence in managing the peace in Iraq and poor management of the Syrian Crisis has made this country less secure? Wonder how strong ISIS would be had an arrogant Obama not abandoned the country and not negotiated a better agreement with Iraq? You buy the liberal rhetoric which continues to be the case. There is no reason we shouldn't have kept an air base in the Kurd Controlled area and there is no way American weapons would be in the hands of ISIS with strong U.S. leadership which of course we do not have. Your support for Obama is misguided at best.

No americans would have died at all in Iraq if George Bush hadn't decided to flex his macho muscles and get rid of whatever infrastructure existed in Iraq because of a bogus claim of weapons of mass destruction.
 
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And BEFORE Bush invaded there were no "Islamic militants tearing through Iraq" either. The invasion and its 200,000 American targets is what brought the largest increase of militants in Iraq EVER. A virtual WAVE of recruits that became ISIS happened because of the ill-conceived invasion. When Bush said "bring it on", the militants took him at his word and what we have now is the result.
Giving "authority" to the President is not the same as believing we should invade. That decision was Bush's ALONE and he chose POORLY.

If every US president bought into your "Don't rock the boat" doctrine, this would be a much more dangerous world then it is now.
 
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No americans would have died at all in Iraq if George Bush hadn't decided to flex his macho muscles and get rid of whatever infrastructure existed in Iraq because of a bogus claim of weapons of mass destruction.

Right, bogus claims made by Democrats prior to Bush taking office and afterwards? You have a very selective and poor memory about history and reality. Democrats controlled the Congress and gave Bush the authorization to invade Iraq. Iraq broke the peace agreement that ended the Gulf War but again that is something you don't understand. What is it about people like you who have to wait for thousands of Americans to die before you react? Is the world a safer place today with Obama in the WH? Why is that the large majority in this country today don't agree with you about Obama?
 
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If every US president bought into your "Don't rock the boat" doctrine, this would be a much more dangerous world then it is now.

It is amazing to me that with all that is happening in Iraq because of that foolish and poorly planned "boat rocking" you still believe it was the right thing to do. How much more will need to happen before you admit that invading Iraq was a HUGE mistake. Taking responsibility for your mistakes is the first step in avoiding more. Sticking sticks into hornets nests with no plan will not end well. Even a kid knows that.
 
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Right, bogus claims made by Democrats prior to Bush taking office and afterwards? You have a very selective and poor memory about history and reality. Democrats controlled the Congress and gave Bush the authorization to invade Iraq. Iraq broke the peace agreement that ended the Gulf War but again that is something you don't understand. What is it about people like you who have to wait for thousands of Americans to die before you react? Is the world a safer place today with Obama in the WH? Why is that the large majority in this country today don't agree with you about Obama?

We don't have to wait for thousands to die, Bush's invasion resulted in 4000 American deaths and the creation of ISIS. How much more misery do you want?
 
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We don't have to wait for thousands to die, Bush's invasion resulted in 4000 American deaths and the creation of ISIS. How much more misery do you want?


Yes, war is hell as was the attack on America and the reality that Saddam Hussein had a WMD program. Democrats knew it, the world knew it, and Bush acted on the world intelligence. No matter how many times you attempt to blame Bush the reality that today's world is the creation of Obama. His failure to negotiate the ability to keep troops in Iraq, his failure to react to the Syria situation, his total ignorance of world events and world politics all appealed to his base which apparently you are part of. GW Bush won the war in Iraq and Obama lost the peace, that is reality and the world is more dangerous today because of the incompetent in the WH, an incompetent President that only 40% support today. What is it about liberalism that creates people like you who cannot admit when you made a mistake and bought simply the rhetoric?
 
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It is amazing to me that with all that is happening in Iraq because of that foolish and poorly planned "boat rocking" you still believe it was the right thing to do. How much more will need to happen before you admit that invading Iraq was a HUGE mistake. Taking responsibility for your mistakes is the first step in avoiding more. Sticking sticks into hornets nests with no plan will not end well. Even a kid knows that.

I don't buy into the suggestion that invading Iraq was a mistake, much less a huge mistake. I think Iraq was a simmering powder keg and our return to hostilities in Iraq was imminent. I doubt that you know enough about the middle east to understand. And there was a plan for taking down the Saddam regime. That plan was very rapidly successful. If there was a mistake in planning, it was underestimating the insurgency. The surge strategy was a good one, however it should have been carried out sooner. The biggest mistake was Barack Hussein Obama too easily taking "no" for an answer in leaving a contingent of troops behind. As for your silly "Don't stick your finger in a hornets nest" analogy, how much of a plan do you think we had when we stuck I finger in the hornet's nest in Europe in two world wars?
 
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I don't buy into the suggestion that invading Iraq was a mistake, much less a huge mistake. I think Iraq was a simmering powder keg and our return to hostilities in Iraq was imminent. I doubt that you know enough about the middle east to understand. And there was a plan for taking down the Saddam regime. That plan was very rapidly successful. If there was a mistake in planning, it was underestimating the insurgency. The surge strategy was a good one, however it should have been carried out sooner. The biggest mistake was Barack Hussein Obama too easily taking "no" for an answer in leaving a contingent of troops behind. As for your silly "Don't stick your finger in a hornets nest" analogy, how much of a plan do you think we had when we stuck I finger in the hornet's nest in Europe in two world wars?

Bush installed Malaki as President of Iraq and he asked us to leave. Are you saying we should have deposed Malaki too and started over? Was that Bush's plan? If it was I never heard him say we needed to invade Iraq again. Is that how we make the world safe? Invading a country over and over until we kill everyone there? Who does that sound like? Adolf Hitler that's who.
 
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Bush installed Malaki as President of Iraq and he asked us to leave. Are you saying we should have deposed Malaki too and started over? Was that Bush's plan? If it was I never heard him say we needed to invade Iraq again. Is that how we make the world safe? Invading a country over and over until we kill everyone there? Who does that sound like? Adolf Hitler that's who.

You simply will never get it, decisions have consequences and Obama made the decision long before taking office that Iraq was the "bad" war and was going to get out. He never thought about the consequences of pulling out nor does he apparently care. The world isn't safer today because of Obama and that is reality.
 
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The world is far more dangerous today because of this sorry excuse for a President. In the Civil War, there was a Union general named Irvin McDowell who was so incompetent many people suspected he was trying to help the Confederacy by fighting so poorly.

When I look at the enormous damage the prissy leftist now occupying the White House has done to this country, together with his clear resentment of American culture and traditions, I can't help but think of McDowell--plain old incompetence, or something far worse?
 
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You simply will never get it, decisions have consequences and Obama made the decision long before taking office that Iraq was the "bad" war and was going to get out. He never thought about the consequences of pulling out nor does he apparently care. The world isn't safer today because of Obama and that is reality.

This is compounded by the fact that Obama can't admit he very seriously screwed up and will take action to correct his blunder. If he did that he could win back a lot of support, I believe.

It's taking half-hearted measures and telling everyone that he will only take baby steps that will only make the situation worse.
 
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This is compounded by the fact that Obama can't admit he very seriously screwed up and will take action to correct his blunder. If he did that he could win back a lot of support, I believe.

It's taking half-hearted measures and telling everyone that he will only take baby steps that will only make the situation worse.

I think the genocide in Iraq happening now will turn public opinion. And "lead from behind" Obama will bend due to public opinion.
 
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The world is far more dangerous today because of this sorry excuse for a President. In the Civil War, there was a Union general named Irvin McDowell who was so incompetent many people suspected he was trying to help the Confederacy by fighting so poorly.

When I look at the enormous damage the prissy leftist now occupying the White House has done to this country, together with his clear resentment of American culture and traditions, I can't help but think of McDowell--plain old incompetence, or something far worse?

Agreed. This is hope and change.
 
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Bush installed Malaki as President of Iraq and he asked us to leave. Are you saying we should have deposed Malaki too and started over? Was that Bush's plan? If it was I never heard him say we needed to invade Iraq again. Is that how we make the world safe? Invading a country over and over until we kill everyone there? Who does that sound like? Adolf Hitler that's who.

Where do you come up with this stuff? Bush did not install Malaki. The Iraqi voters did. Malaki was not the first choice of the Bush administration. and no, I don't think we should have deposed Malaki and started over. However we should have pushed the concept of leaving behind a contingent of forces behind to insure the peace at least until Iraq stabilized. Get back to me when you can logically discuss Iraq.
 
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Incredibly insightful comment, revealing once again the dearth of original, constructive ideas from the American Right.
Actually, his commentary on your response pretty much nails the left perfectly.
 
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Dude by by your reasoning Hitler shouldn't even be brought up by historians for persecuting the Jews because that was so long ago.

And I thought the repubs were all for taking responsibility for your actions. Guess I was wrong.
Obama has been president for 6 years. He has supported fundamentalist terrorist upheavals throughout the ME and where he hasnt blatantly supported them, he has been asleep at the wheel. You can try your damnedest to divert attention but it wont fly. Obama is not responsible for Bush's actions. He IS responsible for his own presidency. Bush didnt support fundamentalist extremists in Syria...Obama did. Bush didnt support fundamentalist terrorists in Egypt. Obama did. Bush didnt support the terrorist overthrow of the Libyan government. Obama did. Bush didnt sit back and ignore the rising of ISIS in the ME. Obama did. That you refuse to acknowledge that and try to blame others...thats ****ing pathetic, dood.
 
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Of course its personal with Obama. It's a gut level hatred that becomes more and more obvious as time passes.

LOL !!

Pot meet kettle. Honestly, people just like you called Bush every name in the book, called him a war criminal, perpetuated false narratives about supposed lies about WMD.

You people hated him so much you had to make stuff up to be indignant with his administration.

You called him a Liar, and then elected a Liar.

You called him incompetent, and then elected a incompetent.

You called him stupid, and then went on to vote for Democrats like Sheila Jackson Lee, Hank Johnson, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid.

You called him a criminal and then elected a President who's covering for criminal acts by Governmental agencies.

If you can't take the heat then next time spend a whole 3 minutes vetting your next Presidential candidate. Use your brain, instead of buying everything that's being fed to you.

You wouldn't have to listen to this criticism if you had only done a little homework.
 
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I think the genocide in Iraq happening now will turn public opinion. And "lead from behind" Obama will bend due to public opinion.
I'd like you to be right but our optimistic expectations have only led to disappointment.
 
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Obama has been president for 6 years. He has supported fundamentalist terrorist upheavals throughout the ME and where he hasnt blatantly supported them, he has been asleep at the wheel. You can try your damnedest to divert attention but it wont fly. Obama is not responsible for Bush's actions. He IS responsible for his own presidency. Bush didnt support fundamentalist extremists in Syria...Obama did. Bush didnt support fundamentalist terrorists in Egypt. Obama did. Bush didnt support the terrorist overthrow of the Libyan government. Obama did. Bush didnt sit back and ignore the rising of ISIS in the ME. Obama did. That you refuse to acknowledge that and try to blame others...thats ****ing pathetic, dood.

The responses Ive seen from leftists basically condense down to 3 things...

1. Bush!!! (Obama is not actually to blame for his own policies over his 2 terms)
2. We need to vet these pics (This isn't actually happening, cue the conspiracies)
3. BUSH!!!!!!! (once again, for good measure).

Note that its not Obama's fault, nor is it ever his fault.
 
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