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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Iraq was a newly functioning democracy until Obama decided to pull the troops. Now it's back to chaos.
    Well that's the joke of the day, no year. Iraq has never been a functioning democracy. Btw, what exactly is Harper going to do to help things in Iraq, or any of the ME for that matter. Thankfully though, you've got an Internet opinion, and that's where it ends for you. You probably have some say in Canada though.
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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    There is a big difference between peace and appeasement. Your mindset looks more like appeasement. I believe in peace through strength.
    And strength for you is bombs and missels when there's far better ways to peace.
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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

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    Really? So all that intelligence prior to Bush taking office was manipulated by Cheney? Did Clinton know that Cheney was doing that? Conspiracy theories is all you liberals ever have.
    Are you referring to the report of the select committee on intelligence in Iraq?Or the warning that came in a secret briefing that bush received at the ranch on Aug. 6, 2001?


    ISIS wasn't in Iraq, they were in Syria after being driven from Iraq.
    Was ISIS in Iraq prior to the bush invasion?

    ISIS is Obama's legacy so are the thousands being killed.
    NAH! bush will forever be wearing than crown.Get used to it.
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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Yes we did. Before the fighting, during the fighting, and after the unconditional surrender. We talked with Japan, for example, about an agreeable surrender before we dropped the bomb. because no agreement was reached doesn't mean we didn't negotiate.
    Produce evidence that the Unites States was "negotiating" with Japan during or after the unconditional surrender. Not that we offered to stop fighting if they surrendered... but that we would accept ANY condition from them. I have literally never heard, in all my years studying this topic, both as a major in school, as a teacher or as an individual, that we negotiated with Japan in any way, shape or form.
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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Donc View Post
    Are you referring to the report of the select committee on intelligence in Iraq?Or the warning that came in a secret briefing that bush received at the ranch on Aug. 6, 2001?




    Was ISIS in Iraq prior to the bush invasion?



    NAH! bush will forever be wearing than crown.Get used to it.
    i am talking about the Iraq Liberation Act, the UN Resolution 1441, British Intelligence, German Intelligence, The Kaye Report none of which matter to you or even matter today. All you want to do is place blame but that serves no purpose. ISIS was run out of Iraq and thrived in Syria while "YOUR" President did nothing. He didn't negotiate an American Presence in Iraq after the withdrawal and took credit for leaving a peaceful stable Iraq leaving equipment behind and no air bases. He is incompetent just like his supporters
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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Produce evidence that the Unites States was "negotiating" with Japan during or after the unconditional surrender. Not that we offered to stop fighting if they surrendered... but that we would accept ANY condition from them. I have literally never heard, in all my years studying this topic, both as a major in school, as a teacher or as an individual, that we negotiated with Japan in any way, shape or form.
    Japan was talking to us through the Russians. They were willing and proposed almost the same thing we eventually accepted. We always talk to our enemies in one way or another. But here's a link:

    In an article that finally appeared August 19, 1945, on the front pages of the Chicago Tribune and the Washington Times-Herald, Trohan revealed that on January 20, 1945, two days prior to his departure for the Yalta meeting with Stalin and Churchill, President Roosevelt received a 40-page memorandum from General Douglas MacArthur outlining five separate surrender overtures from high-level Japanese officials. (The complete text of Trohan's article is in the Winter 1985-86 Journal, pp. 508-512.)

    This memo showed that the Japanese were offering surrender terms virtually identical to the ones ultimately accepted by the Americans at the formal surrender ceremony on September 2 -- that is, complete surrender of everything but the person of the Emperor. Specifically, the terms of these peace overtures included:

    Complete surrender of all Japanese forces and arms, at home, on island possessions, and in occupied countries.
    Occupation of Japan and its possessions by Allied troops under American direction.
    Japanese relinquishment of all territory seized during the war, as well as Manchuria, Korea and Taiwan.
    Regulation of Japanese industry to halt production of any weapons and other tools of war.
    Release of all prisoners of war and internees.
    Surrender of designated war criminals.

    Was Hiroshima Necessary?

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Japan was talking to us through the Russians. They were willing and proposed almost the same thing we eventually accepted. We always talk to our enemies in one way or another. But here's a link:

    In an article that finally appeared August 19, 1945, on the front pages of the Chicago Tribune and the Washington Times-Herald, Trohan revealed that on January 20, 1945, two days prior to his departure for the Yalta meeting with Stalin and Churchill, President Roosevelt received a 40-page memorandum from General Douglas MacArthur outlining five separate surrender overtures from high-level Japanese officials. (The complete text of Trohan's article is in the Winter 1985-86 Journal, pp. 508-512.)

    This memo showed that the Japanese were offering surrender terms virtually identical to the ones ultimately accepted by the Americans at the formal surrender ceremony on September 2 -- that is, complete surrender of everything but the person of the Emperor. Specifically, the terms of these peace overtures included:

    Complete surrender of all Japanese forces and arms, at home, on island possessions, and in occupied countries.
    Occupation of Japan and its possessions by Allied troops under American direction.
    Japanese relinquishment of all territory seized during the war, as well as Manchuria, Korea and Taiwan.
    Regulation of Japanese industry to halt production of any weapons and other tools of war.
    Release of all prisoners of war and internees.
    Surrender of designated war criminals.

    Was Hiroshima Necessary?
    In reading that article I see that we did not negotiate. We were given proposals by Japan and we did not accept any of them.

    That is all that article stated.

    We ended up dictating terms. That is what unconditional surrender is all about.
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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Japan was talking to us through the Russians. They were willing and proposed almost the same thing we eventually accepted. We always talk to our enemies in one way or another. But here's a link:

    In an article that finally appeared August 19, 1945, on the front pages of the Chicago Tribune and the Washington Times-Herald, Trohan revealed that on January 20, 1945, two days prior to his departure for the Yalta meeting with Stalin and Churchill, President Roosevelt received a 40-page memorandum from General Douglas MacArthur outlining five separate surrender overtures from high-level Japanese officials. (The complete text of Trohan's article is in the Winter 1985-86 Journal, pp. 508-512.)

    This memo showed that the Japanese were offering surrender terms virtually identical to the ones ultimately accepted by the Americans at the formal surrender ceremony on September 2 -- that is, complete surrender of everything but the person of the Emperor. Specifically, the terms of these peace overtures included:

    Complete surrender of all Japanese forces and arms, at home, on island possessions, and in occupied countries.
    Occupation of Japan and its possessions by Allied troops under American direction.
    Japanese relinquishment of all territory seized during the war, as well as Manchuria, Korea and Taiwan.
    Regulation of Japanese industry to halt production of any weapons and other tools of war.
    Release of all prisoners of war and internees.
    Surrender of designated war criminals.

    Was Hiroshima Necessary?
    Yep! Exactly. Good luck bud, I've been through all that with the same fellas before!
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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    And strength for you is bombs and missels when there's far better ways to peace.
    Sometimes you have to fight.

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Sometimes you have to fight.
    Sometimes!

    But not in Iraq or Afghanistan (or Syria or Ukraine)


    A Washington Post/ABC News poll shows two-thirds of Americans believe what some of us were saying four and more years ago: the war in Afghanistan was not worth fighting.

    Seventy-one percent of Americans now say that the war in Iraq “wasn’t worth it,” a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal/Annenberg poll shows, with skepticism about the lengthy war effort up substantially even in the last 18 months.


    http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ira...e-poll-n139686
    Last edited by Montecresto; 08-25-14 at 08:56 PM.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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