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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    My point is, this is a war of hearts and minds and nothing unites Muslims as claiming that the crusaders are coming.

    The problem with ISIL is that it is a blending of religious fanatics and disenfranchised tribes and former Saddam military people. In fact the main military leader is supposed to be a former top Saddam general. With the US bombing them, then they can use it as part of the propaganda machine to win over more tribes and people and keep the population in check.

    Had it been a Muslim country doing the bombing, preferably from a shia country, then this propaganda element could not be exploited. Turkey would have been perfect but they dont like the Kurds and actually has an ISIL gift shop somewhere in Turkey selling t-shirts and other swag..

    Basically we are in a no win situation and the people of the region are the ones who are going to suffer.
    'If, if, if' is too late to worry about. They are a problem NOW, and though air power alone won't root them out, combined with Iraqi ground troops they can start to leverage them out of power. The locals are already suffering under their backwards and brutal regime. I just put an article up in my previous post stating they want to attack and fight the US directly, if we don't organize a force to fight them now, before they get completely out of hand, it'll be a bigger regret and problem down the road.
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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Obama just doomed the USA to more terror attacks and spending $2 T more in more stupid wars we should not be part of.

    falling for the MIC war machine lies ..............again.

    We attack ISIS

    They do small attack in retaliation............

    This then justifies Billions for a massive attack (US MIC media machine denies that we started war with ISIS)

    Then ISIS digs in for a long war...........

    Then MIC has guarantied profits for 10 years in ANOTHER WAR..............

    "history repeats itself, I didnt learn, I didn't listen.......................the books were on the shelf (about Iraq, Vietnam etc) (a song)
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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    LOL talk about denying the facts.. it was not arbitrary by any means.. gezz the rewriting of history by the American right is beyond shocking.

    You're the one blaming Bush for something that happened in 2012.

    Talk about revisionism AND hypocrisy.

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Revisionism and Hypocricy started with the stains Cheney and Rumsfeld .
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    You're the one blaming Bush for something that happened in 2012.

    Talk about revisionism AND hypocrisy.
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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by 274ina View Post
    Obama just doomed the USA to more terror attacks and spending $2 T more in more stupid wars we should not be part of.

    falling for the MIC war machine lies ..............again.

    We attack ISIS

    They do small attack in retaliation............

    This then justifies Billions for a massive attack (US MIC media machine denies that we started war with ISIS)

    Then ISIS digs in for a long war...........

    Then MIC has guarantied profits for 10 years in ANOTHER WAR..............

    "history repeats itself, I didnt learn, I didn't listen.......................the books were on the shelf (about Iraq, Vietnam etc) (a song)
    Here's another very possible scenario.

    The US allows ISIS to grow in power and scope. They already control more land mass than Great Britain, a far cry more money and stolen US armament than Al Qaeda ever had. They march into southern Iraq taking over Baghdad and the oil fields, then onto Jordan. Iran and Saudi Arabia responds with all out war, possibly blocking the Persian Gulf. Oil markets cause a sudden rise in gas prices, while the weakened global economy causes stock markets start to tank. Eventually they hit the US on its own soil with multiple terrorists attacks. There's your next ten years or WW3.
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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    If a situation's dynamics change, then so do the principles of big picture policies. If America allows the ME to become much destabilized from ISIS, it could cause a multinational conflict in the area that disrupts the oil flow and resulting markets. And at worse, draw Russia into the area with more armed support leading to a US showdown.
    There's nothing new with the ME dynamic that wasn't there when Obama decided exercise his campaign promise and remove all troops from Iraq. There's nothing new with the ME dynamic that wasn't there when Obama decided not to assist the student uprising in Syria before it became a quagmire of the regions worst actors.

    Obama's only big-picture action was to go to Egypt, give a speech, essentially promise American support for those in the ME who wanted to fight for change, and then abandon the promise and America's role and influence in the region. Too late to put the genie back in the bottle, as the old saying goes.

    What America needs, in my view, is a conference of all parties in American government and influence to determine what is in America's best interests going forward and acting in a rational, thoughtful way rather than having circumstances dictate how and to whom America dances.
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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    I've never watched the Kardashians, you'll have to fill me in.
    A joke, a bit of levity, isn't very effective if it has to be explained or if the target wants to break things down into detail.

    Sorry I disturbed you - have a fun day.
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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    And now we're back in there with ground troops and war planes, why because Iraq wants us back??
    Yes that's pretty much it.

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    No, the terrorist wouldn't be in Iraq if not for the politicized move to pull all US troops.

    Thank you Obama
    So did it bother you when Bush actually planned the pull out?

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Sadly this will only help ISIS in their propaganda... the crusaders are coming.. and that will make Muslims rally behind them. It should have been the Saudis or Iranians that should have done the bombing.. or Turkey.
    Good. Maybe we can get all the hornets to come to the nest to be eradicated.

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