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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Well, now that the President have given his stern little speech and promised to be relentless, I'm sure those ISIS rats have well and truly had the fear of God put into them. They know our Barry's blood is up, and I'm sure we won't be hearing much more from them.

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Donc View Post
    And if bush hadn't lied us into the Iraq invasion, we wouldn't be facing the disease of ISIS today. They wouldn't exist. ISSIS would be a wet dream for Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi/ al Qaeda in Iraq. More than likely he would be teaching Islamic studies as a preacher in Diyala province, to the north east of Baghdad, where he was during the bush invasion of 2003.
    Democrats were war hawks on Iraq long before Bush even ran for president:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSwSDvgw5Uc

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    There would've been no ISIS in Iraq had konservatives not ejaculated themselves in 2001 and put Dumbya into power, who decided to take out one of the few secular (Baathist) regimes that kept militant Islam under wraps.
    You can stop the phony ignorance act anytime now. It was Clinton that made regime change in Iraq US policy. And every democrat you worship with the exception of "Hussein" Obama" were war hawks long before Bush ran for president.

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    You are mistaken there, there are some on this board that say we should stay there like we are in Germany now. The difference of course is that Germany has actually agreed to it where Iraq wanted us out.
    I'm betting Iraq wishes we had been their when the ISIS goons started attacking.

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Which policies would those be? Be specific.
    How many times must it be repeated. In fact why you don't already know the answer to your question is the very reason why we keep repeating insane policies in the ME.


    In recent years, President Obama, his European friends, and even some Middle Eastern allies, have supported “rebel groups” in Libya and Syria. Some received training, financial and military support to overthrow Muammar Gadhafi and battle Bashar al Assad. It’s a strategy that follows the old saying, “The enemy of my enemy is my friend,” and it has been the American and allied approach for decades in deciding whether to support opposition groups and movements.

    The problem is that it is completely unreliable — and often far worse than other strategies. Every year there are more cases in which this approach backfires. The most glaring and famous failure was in Afghanistan, where some of the groups taught (and supplied) to fight the Soviet Army later became stridently anti-Western. In that environment, Al Qaeda flourished and established the camps where perpetrators of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks were trained. Yet instead of learning from its mistakes, the United States keeps making them.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/postev...training-them/

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    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Which policies would those be? Be specific.
    Preface: The director of the National Security Agency under Ronald Reagan – Lt. General William Odom - noted:

    Because the United States itself has a long record of supporting terrorists and using terrorist tactics, the slogans of today’s war on terrorism merely makes the United States look hypocritical to the rest of the world.

    Odom also said:

    By any measure the US has long used terrorism. In ‘78-79 the Senate was trying to pass a law against international terrorism – in every version they produced, the lawyers said the US would be in violation.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Preface: The director of the National Security Agency under Ronald Reagan – Lt. General William Odom - noted:

    Because the United States itself has a long record of supporting terrorists and using terrorist tactics, the slogans of today’s war on terrorism merely makes the United States look hypocritical to the rest of the world.

    Odom also said:

    By any measure the US has long used terrorism. In ‘78-79 the Senate was trying to pass a law against international terrorism – in every version they produced, the lawyers said the US would be in violation.
    Oh, Good Lord, are you really this naive? You believe that radical Islamic fundamentalists play by any rules at all and believe in the rule of law? your problem is you try to justify your actions by comparing everyone else to your own standards. That isn't the way the world works and there is evil in it. This is evil and they have a policy, convert or die. Which do you choose?

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Oh, Good Lord, are you really this naive? You believe that radical Islamic fundamentalists play by any rules at all and believe in the rule of law? your problem is you try to justify your actions by comparing everyone else to your own standards. That isn't the way the world works and there is evil in it. This is evil and they have a policy, convert or die. Which do you choose?
    The director of national security has a vastly larger understanding then a winger on the Internet. Clearly you have your head firmly in the sand. Have a good weekend.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The director of national security has a vastly larger understanding then a winger on the Internet. Clearly you have your head firmly in the sand. Have a good weekend.
    History says this "winger" on the internet actually has watched activities since the 70's. My bet is so have most others but apparently not you

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Bush didn't win anything. There was a corrupt government, sectarian violence and mistrust of the Iraqi government. Sorry, but yes, the problems in Iraq stem from Bush attacking and removing Saddam. Now, you are free to argue that we needed to do it, but don't expect anyone to buy your BS that Bush won the war. All Bush did was create a powder keg that was destined to explode.
    Less and less Americans believe Bush won anything. More and more Americans now understand that both wars he launched were a mistake. The only down side is that Americans are always duped long enough for the damage to be done. Think we'll have enough people calling bull**** to shut down military involvement in Syria now. Or will the endless props drug out to handwringing over IS, and the fear mongering of potential attacks at home, frighten Americans into supporting more failed US policy in the ME?
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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