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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Ok... you live under that delusion then. Afghanistan didn't attack us. It was just a really remote place for some asshats to hide and make plans... asshats from other countries like Saudi Arabia. Imperial Japan was a whole nation we were at war with. Don't know how you can make any ties of similarity at all.
    The asshats you are referring to are the Taliban. The Taliban controlled the government of Afghanistan at the time. The Taliban gave al queda and the most notorious terrorist in the world a safe haven. The Taliban associated themselves with Osama Bin Laden. For all practical purposes the government of Afghanistan was complicit in the terrorist attacks of 9/11/01. Therefore Afghanistan did attack us. We gave them the opportunity to turn OBL over to us. They refused.

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    They can declare themselves legitimate and go from there. Islamists have been called "Nazis in a hurry", but they can also be very patient.

    They also have a profound commitment to their cause while the democracies are still, largely initiated by doltish leftists of course, self-censoring themselves about the possible perils of Islamophobia. Islamists have no such problem with words, or defining their intentions.
    The amusing thing about the progressives who use the term "islamophobia" so broadly is that most of them are the same progressives who so harshly criticize Christianity.

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    What a foolish statement. That didn't address my question at all, and you managed to bag a couple likes on it, too funny. Care to answer the question. Let me phrase it for you differently. Could people in the Middle East not have legitimate grievances against the US that would cause them to plant an IED along side a road and detonate it as a US military column passes by?
    Before I will take you seriously enough to answer such questions directly, you will have to prove to me that you understand that the idiots who are setting up the IEDs are terrorists who do not represent any nation....in the middle east or anywhere else. Perhaps then you will understand that I do not accept that any terrorism is justified.

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    They bear sole blame for any criminal acts they commit. The US government bears responsibility for advancing policies that benefit, strengthen and embolden them.
    That is ludicrous. It's like saying: Let's check with terrorists before we decide on our foreign policy. Which part of "terrorists do not represent nations" do you not understand? Terrorists are fanatical bloody murderers. Committing acts of terrorism erases any right whatsoever to claim any grievance whatsoever.

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    We had a pretty good go of that a few months back in a different forum. You might think that only loosely organised and generally un uniformed groups mostly from Muslim countries are capable of terrorism. But you'd be wrong. For near a month, Palestinian civilians were quite terrorised by Israeli shelling that took 2,000 lives and injured several more, the terror in palestinians faces and voices could be seen on international television daily. Of course US MSM tended to focus away from that, so you may have missed it.
    That is ludicrous. You apparently lack the ability to distinguish between terrorism and self defense.

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    The asshats you are referring to are the Taliban. The Taliban controlled the government of Afghanistan at the time. The Taliban gave al queda and the most notorious terrorist in the world a safe haven. The Taliban associated themselves with Osama Bin Laden. For all practical purposes the government of Afghanistan was complicit in the terrorist attacks of 9/11/01. Therefore Afghanistan did attack us. We gave them the opportunity to turn OBL over to us. They refused.
    No.

    No the Taliban didn't orchestrate the attack and no... the Taliban and AQ are not the same entity. What short memories we have... or limited sources of news I suppose.

    Bush rejects Taliban offer to hand Bin Laden over

    President George Bush rejected as "non-negotiable" an offer by the Taliban to discuss turning over Osama bin Laden if the United States ended the bombing in Afghanistan.

    U.S. Rejects New Taliban Offer

    The United States today rejected yet another offer by Afghanistan's ruling Taliban to turn over Osama bin Laden for trial in a third country if the U.S. presents evidence against bin Laden and stops air attacks.

    Bush Rejects Taliban Bin Laden Offer

    JALALABAD, Afghanistan A senior Taliban leader said Sunday that the Islamic militia would be willing to hand over Osama bin Laden to a third country if the United States halts the bombing of Afghanistan and provides evidence against him.
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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    No.

    No the Taliban didn't orchestrate the attack and no... the Taliban and AQ are not the same entity. What short memories we have... or limited sources of news I suppose.

    Bush rejects Taliban offer to hand Bin Laden over

    President George Bush rejected as "non-negotiable" an offer by the Taliban to discuss turning over Osama bin Laden if the United States ended the bombing in Afghanistan.

    U.S. Rejects New Taliban Offer

    The United States today rejected yet another offer by Afghanistan's ruling Taliban to turn over Osama bin Laden for trial in a third country if the U.S. presents evidence against bin Laden and stops air attacks.

    Bush Rejects Taliban Bin Laden Offer

    JALALABAD, Afghanistan –– A senior Taliban leader said Sunday that the Islamic militia would be willing to hand over Osama bin Laden to a third country if the United States halts the bombing of Afghanistan and provides evidence against him.
    You're repeating the points ObamacareFail already made. Did you not read his post before responding?

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    That is ludicrous. You apparently lack the ability to distinguish between terrorism and self defense.
    That's you. Al Qaeda was engaged in self defense in Iraq for years.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    No.

    No the Taliban didn't orchestrate the attack and no... the Taliban and AQ are not the same entity. What short memories we have... or limited sources of news I suppose.

    Bush rejects Taliban offer to hand Bin Laden over

    President George Bush rejected as "non-negotiable" an offer by the Taliban to discuss turning over Osama bin Laden if the United States ended the bombing in Afghanistan.

    U.S. Rejects New Taliban Offer

    The United States today rejected yet another offer by Afghanistan's ruling Taliban to turn over Osama bin Laden for trial in a third country if the U.S. presents evidence against bin Laden and stops air attacks.

    Bush Rejects Taliban Bin Laden Offer

    JALALABAD, Afghanistan A senior Taliban leader said Sunday that the Islamic militia would be willing to hand over Osama bin Laden to a third country if the United States halts the bombing of Afghanistan and provides evidence against him.
    Once again, the fact that the Taliban offered safe haven to OBL and al queda....and refused to turn him over to the US made them complicit. And your links are irrelevant. The US demand for the turnover of OBL was not open to negotiations. Nor should it have been. And the Taliban's request for evidence was ludicrous. OBL had already openly admitted he was responsible for the attacks. The time for agreeing to turn OBL over to the US was before the bomb strikes commenced. And their offer to turn him over to a third country was also ludicrous. OBL did not attack a third country on 9/11/01. He attacked the USA. They had their chance.

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    That's you. Al Qaeda was engaged in self defense in Iraq for years.
    That is ofcourse ludicrous. Al queda in Iraq was blowing up mosques, beheading Iraqis as well as at least one American. They even murdered Sunni Muslims if they did not abide by a very harsh interpretation of Sharia Law. That's why at the time, even the Sunnis turned against them and started co-operating with the US and allied forces. That's why the surge worked. You really should stop making it up as you go along. You are coming off as incredibly clueless.

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