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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    What part of this do you not understand. Had Bush not launched a pre-emptive war of choice, and had the House and Senate not had their heads up there asses with support for it. We wouldn't be talking about Iraq. Iraq is a colossal failure of a huge magnitude. And late as it is, thankfully Americans in majority numbers finally figured this out.
    It is now and it is up to Obama to fix it. The question is, will he really fix it or will he, as usual, give a quarter-hearted effort?


    My decisions aren't based upon polls. I was opposed to Afghanistan and Iraq when it was hugely unpopular to be, as in, before either one happened. I was in the lead on this along with very few other Americans at the time. I'm just pointing out to you that even though it took Americans years to realise it, they are in growing numbers, too. BOTH A-Stan and Iraq. Your going to have to live with it, that's the way it is.
    Actually Americans and the free world are going to have to live with Obama's failures. That's really the way it is.

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    What I have told you in multiple fashion is that I opposed every operation the US has conducted in the ME since Carter, all of which have produced much of what were looking at today. I would have preferred that we never started killing people in the ME, supporting militant Islamic groups and conducting regime change from one end to the other.
    You mean it's all America's fault? Now there's a revolutionary idea!

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It is now and it is up to Obama to fix it. The question is, will he really fix it or will he, as usual, give a quarter-hearted effort?


    Actually Americans and the free world are going to have to live with Obama's failures. That's really the way it is.
    True, Obama's failures will have to be endured just as Bush's are. Sucks too. Would be nice to find some good foreign policy come from the WH.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You mean it's all America's fault? Now there's a revolutionary idea!
    Correct, and not just Obama's as you keep preaching.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Why a small force? The CIA director at the time expected 70,000 US troops to remain after SOFA expired. If that were true why did Joe Biden say it was the Administrations greatest achievement and why did Obama call Iraq "Stable". Your are pretending to know something.
    Biden said that the greatest achievement of the Bush admin was the way it handled the occupation of Iraq? Perhaps you have that quote?
    70000 combat troops? Since when does the CIA set such levels?

    Fact is Obama inheirited a collosal F-up from the Bush admin and faces a congress that can't pass wind let alone govern, and a public weary of seeing sons and daughters dieing for vauge reasons. Yet you want to send more to die. During the Clinton admin the right eanted nothing to do with sending troops into shooting zones such as Bosnia and now its full steam ahead, bortow another trillion from China and turn Iraq into an American protectorate.

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by jaydeehess View Post
    Biden said that the greatest achievement of the Bush admin was the way it handled the occupation of Iraq? Perhaps you have that quote?
    Perhaps you can phrase your question properly. Here is what Joe Biden said.Biden Once Called Iraq One of Obama's 'Great Achievements' | The Weekly Standard
    70000 combat troops? Since when does the CIA set such levels?
    Where did i say that the CIA set troop levels? Why not understand the post before you begin asking inane questions?

    Fact is Obama inheirited a collosal F-up from the Bush admin and faces a congress that can't pass wind let alone govern, and a public weary of seeing sons and daughters dieing for vauge reasons.
    That might be your opinion but it is the opposite of what Barrack Obama said. Whose opinion matters more? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKSb2ukQxvY


    Yet you want to send more to die.
    Really? Do you have any evidence of this?

    During the Clinton admin the right eanted nothing to do with sending troops into shooting zones such as Bosnia and now its full steam ahead, bortow another trillion from China and turn Iraq into an American protectorate.
    Sure.

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    True, Obama's failures will have to be endured just as Bush's are. Sucks too. Would be nice to find some good foreign policy come from the WH.
    So what exactly would your foreign policy be? Sounds to me like you are exactly the kind of person our enemies would love to have making leadership decisions. You are very naive and certainly don't understand radical Islam. their basic model is convert or die and that is what is happening in Iraq Now. Find out what a Caliphate is and get back to us. Apparently that doesn't bother you at all.

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So what exactly would your foreign policy be? Sounds to me like you are exactly the kind of person our enemies would love to have making leadership decisions. You are very naive and certainly don't understand radical Islam. their basic model is convert or die and that is what is happening in Iraq Now. Find out what a Caliphate is and get back to us. Apparently that doesn't bother you at all.
    I've only stated it endlessly here, pay attention. Aggressive, interventionist policies in the ME, decades of support of the very Islamic jihadists that have you frightened, have enabled them and bred hatred for America. Have you still not read OBL's letter in which he outlines clearly why the 9/11 attacks were launched? Never mind what Bush said they hate us for, its not because of Starbucks, the NFL and shopping malls, nor perceived morals and values. You seem to want to ignore the reasons and just keep fighting.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I've only stated it endlessly here, pay attention. Aggressive, interventionist policies in the ME, decades of support of the very Islamic jihadists that have you frightened, have enabled them and bred hatred for America. Have you still not read OBL's letter in which he outlines clearly why the 9/11 attacks were launched? Never mind what Bush said they hate us for, its not because of Starbucks, the NFL and shopping malls, nor perceived morals and values. You seem to want to ignore the reasons and just keep fighting.
    Wow, so America is to blame for all the ills in the world? Do you realize how naive and stupid that is? America has been the most charitable country in the world and in no war did we take land, only enough to bury our people. We have fought wars for all religions and protected people of all religions. You have a very distorted view of this country, our morals, and the perceived problems people from this country have created around the world. Very sad, maybe someday you will grow out of this total lack of understanding of just how great this country really is. I believe you are a product of today's education system and that is sad.

    We were told that the Iraq War was a war for oil. How did that turn out for us? How many Iraqi Oil fields are under U.S. Control? What ignorance so many have and yet so many still cannot admit they are wrong on any subject.

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    This is why you don't announce ahead of time when you're going to withdraw most of your forces. The only real answer to this is to send them back in.
    You think it was the announcement? They wouldn't figure it out any other way?

    And no, we should not double down on our original error.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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