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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Don't know much about hissstory... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCVZlLBchVE
    Obviously, Sean Hannity did voice-overs for all of these.

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Are you a cult follower because I haven't seen you admit you were wrong about the origins of ISIS yet?

    Do you think Obama is more omnipotent than God? If so, no wonder you are so disappointed.
    I posted the story about ISIS. I suggest you read the article and then get some help reading where they came from, not who is in the organization. They fostered and grew in Syria which you have yet to admit. When exactly was ISIS created?

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    The better answer (to Bush's discredit) would have been to do a better job of creating a post war Iraq. Ousting Saddam was the right thing to do. Less than 2 years later, Iraq had a functioning government and Constitution. We could have and should have done a better job of preparing them for a post war government. We should have maintained a stronger presence to better secure the security of our personnel there. We should have done a better job with propaganda...winning the hearts and minds. We should have done a better job of being very clear about what a post war Iraq could be with both the option of a Free Iraq and an Iraq under fundamentalist rule.

    We did a ****ty job post war ops.
    It's a long long haul to convince really religious people to follow a government before their religious indoctrinators as they have done for millennia. Then when a religious leader sees an opening for a power-grab... they will take it like any other power-hungry leader.
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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Oh, good Lord, what exactly is this supposed to prove? Do you even give a damn about the 40,000 plus CHRISTIANS trapped in Northern Iraq? You think your chart tells the whole story? My, my liberalism really has exactly what they want in you
    It proves that there was never peace in Iraq, no year that Bush was in there, not even the last year, he won no peace, and you are promoting a lie, so why don't you stop. There's something else you need to understand, Rumsfeld said when asked how long the war would be, "six days, six weeks, I doubt six months". Five years latter, Americans wanted out, that was part of Obama's reason for being elected. We don't want war in Syria, Ukraine or anywhere else.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Wow, nice attempt at re-writing history, is there anyone here that believes ISIS would be a threat if we had a contingency force in Iraq after the withdrawal?
    You believe a small force in Baghdad would have stopped ISIS from entering the country?

    You can ignore history for example the Gulf war that never really ended. You can ignore the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998. You can ignore the actual quotes of Democrats prior to Bush taking office and afterwards. You can ignore that the Senate under Democrat control gave approval for the invasion. You can ignore the world community that said Saddam Hussein was a threat? You can deny that Saddam Hussein used WMD on his own people. You can deny that he violated numerous UN resolutions. You can deny UN inspector Richard Butler's own words, "Don't believe those who say they aren't there just because we haven't found them. Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction," Iraq certainly did have weapons of mass destruction. “Trust me. I held some in my own hands."
    I mentioned any of that, denied any of it? Where?

    I said that the invasion went well but the organization of the initial occupation, or more apropos, lack of it , created a condition of anarchy that was extremely difficult to come back from and that Bush, having failed at it, left it to Obama.
    Yes, you can remain in a state of denial but all that does is ignore history and what actually happened.
    Anothet thing you can do is respond to what you think a poster would have posted because they dared to not blame everything on Obama, rather than what they did post.

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    That's an outright lie. ISIS only started in Hussein Obama's second term. Can't blame Bush for that one.
    Oh goodness!

    The Islamic State (IS)[4][6][50] (Arabic: الدولة الإسلامية‎ ad-Dawlah al-ʾIslāmiyyah), also known as the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) and the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS)

    The group, in its original form, was composed of and supported by a variety of Sunni insurgent groups, including its predecessor organizations, Al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI) (2003–2006), Mujahideen Shura Council (2006–2006) and the Islamic State of Iraq (ISI) (2006–2013), other insurgent groups such as Jeish al-Taiifa al-Mansoura, Jaysh al-Fatiheen, Jund al-Sahaba and Katbiyan Ansar Al-Tawhid wal Sunnah, and a number of Iraqi tribes that profess Sunni Islam.

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam...and_the_Levant
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I posted the story about ISIS. I suggest you read the article and then get some help reading where they came from, not who is in the organization. They fostered and grew in Syria which you have yet to admit. When exactly was ISIS created?
    Islamic State of Iraq was created in 2006 during the Sunni awakening. They didn't go into Syria until 2013.

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    It's a long long haul to convince really religious people to follow a government before their religious indoctrinators as they have done for millennia. Then when a religious leader sees an opening for a power-grab... they will take it like any other power-hungry leader.
    Its weird being in the position to defend Muslims and their ability to grasp reality...but I disagree. I have spent 7 years in the region and yes...the majority of them ARE 'really religious' (thought not necessarily the 'vast' majority and not really REALLY religious as in so religious they lose their objectivity). Most of the Muslims I met were businessmen...first and foremost. Most of them had families. Their faith was always present, but they genuinely and honestly care about their families. I think people there (and here BTW) need to be fully awake to the threat extremism present to their family. I think if we had a better relationship and presented very clearly both a really really positive future and a really really dire future...they would be able to accept that message. I dont mean to breed religion out of them...I mean to celebrate their belief as well as a fervent defense of family and future. Some countries have done just that. UAE comes to mind...as does Kuwait.

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    I'd bomb "them" myself... They can knock it off, yet they would love to see me dead -and that is their goal.

    These ISIS clowns can behave or get dead....Boom!

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It proves that there was never peace in Iraq, no year that Bush was in there, not even the last year, he won no peace, and you are promoting a lie, so why don't you stop. There's something else you need to understand, Rumsfeld said when asked how long the war would be, "six days, six weeks, I doubt six months". Five years latter, Americans wanted out, that was part of Obama's reason for being elected. We don't want war in Syria, Ukraine or anywhere else.
    How you can say that with what you have seen if you are paying attention, the last couple years is beyond comprehension. Iraq is a country of 25 million people. We have more people killed in Chicago in a weekend than were killed in Iraq the last few years. You continue to buy what you are told and see how far that gets you in real life into the future

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