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American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq[W:1007]

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those are opinion programs, not hard news. Do you know the difference? What exactly is it that liberalism stands for that makes any economic, social sense at all? What percentage of our debt do you think we borrow and what is the labor participation rate during the obama term?

You don't think the msm has their agenda? How about msnbc? Cnn? You seem to have selective outrage

And of course YOU have NEVER posted and OPINION piece to justify your views? :roll:
 
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You don't think the MSM has their agenda? How about MSNBC? CNN? You seem to have selective outrage

Of course they do. MSNBC is as slanted as Fox, although they tend to be more factually accurate than Fox.

CNN doesn't have nearly as much opinion programming as fox or CNN, and when it does they at least make an attempt to be neutral and never allow multiple people on one side to simply shout down the other side like Fox does.
 
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Of course they do. MSNBC is as slanted as Fox, although they tend to be more factually accurate than Fox.

CNN doesn't have nearly as much opinion programming as fox or CNN, and when it does they at least make an attempt to be neutral and never allow multiple people on one side to simply shout down the other side like Fox does.

Wow, what leftwing site did you get this information from? Just goes to show how easily it is to sway your opinion based upon rhetoric. Fox is the number one cable News network on the air but there is a difference between hard news and the opinion segment. You choose to believe what the left wing opinion talking heads tell you, whereas the I prefer the talking heads on Fox. The difference is I trust but verify. You trust completely but never verify because the left wing ideology is more in line. Those so called lies you claim from Fox normally come from both sides and not the hard news anchors. BEA.gov, BLS.gov, and the U.S. Treasury can be your friend but in your case will confuse you with the facts which support the Fox Hard news reporters.
 
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You can suggest all you want but all that does is show your partisan opinion which the facts just don't support. Who exactly are we to negotiate with? Wonder how those dozens of people murdered in a northern Iraqi city would vote if they were still alive? Wonder exactly what convert or die really means in the liberal world?

I've already listed that. Again, go back and actually read.
 
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ISIS just a couple of days ago executed 80 men simply because they refused to convert to Islam. About a week before, they cut a 5 year old boy in half. They have also beheaded other children and put their heads on sticks. They have forcibly raped women. In light of all of that.....I choose to call them animals. You do whatever you want.

yes, they've done terrible things. PEOPLE do terrible things. Animals don't. They only kill to eat or to defend. Only PEOPLE do these type of terrible things. And all peoples are capable of it under the right conditions, and it starts by dehumanizing. ISIS does this. They dehumanize and it allows them to act this way. Should we model ourselves after them?
 
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Tell that to the locals they are killing whose only perceived sin is refusing to convert to islam.

The emotion card? Does this mean you've lost all sense of logic?
 
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100% WRONG. We didn't negotiate AT ALL with Japan or Germany. They had to accept "unconditional surrender". Unconditional means zero negotiations. That is the entire point.

"They rejected absolutely any notion of negotiating with an enemy whom they regarded as criminal and refused to commit themselves to any conditions which might be offered or required by the German leadership"

Germany's Unconditional Surrender | History Today

Yes we did. Before the fighting, during the fighting, and after the unconditional surrender. We talked with Japan, for example, about an agreeable surrender before we dropped the bomb. because no agreement was reached doesn't mean we didn't negotiate.
 
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Yes, it's Reagan's fault all right. But let's not forget Dwight Eisenhower and Jack Kennedy. Or LBJ.

Stop being non-responsive. Noting Reagan appeased terrorist isn't blaming him for anything happening currently. I'd have to use your logic for that. But as he did appease, and he is a revered leader despite appeasing terrorist and giving them weapons, I'm unsure of what your standard is? Is it that as long as it is a republican, it's OK? That's what it sounds like to many.
 
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I've already listed that. Again, go back and actually read.

I read your partisan naive rhetoric and all it does is bring out the liberal in me for I feel sorry for you
 
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Nothing political, but where are they getting these weapons from? Who the hell is selling them weapons, or buying oil from their oil fields?

Just seems to me that if the world would stop supplying them, they would dry up and disapear.
As I recall they seized much of their weaponry from the Iraqi military. Its not uncommon...hell Africa has a lot of little tinhorn warlords with some of the finest unfired UN combat gear ever produced. Brand spanking new.
 
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I read your partisan naive rhetoric and all it does is bring out the liberal in me for I feel sorry for you

And yet, you don't address what has actually been said. Odd that.
 
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You missed your cue. It's because of racism, remember?

Could be. I need more information before I can make that charge. Which is the point I've tried to get across.
 
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And yet, you don't address what has actually been said. Odd that.

Could it have anything to do with your selective reading skills? Seems I don't have any problem being understood by many here nor posting actual verifiable data. Wish you would do the same
 
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Could be. I need more information before I can make that charge. Which is the point I've tried to get across.

But you have sufficient information to suggest hatred as a motive?
 
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Could it have anything to do with your selective reading skills? Seems I don't have any problem being understood by many here nor posting actual verifiable data. Wish you would do the same

I understand you fine. But you have not addressed what I've written and that's a fact.
 
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But you have sufficient information to suggest hatred as a motive?

I think when excessive exaggeration become the rule, as it largely is with those opposing Obama, hate is a reasonable conclusion. And these pages are full of wild exaggerations.
 
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I understand you fine. But you have not addressed what I've written and that's a fact.

I have addressed everything you have posted that I actually understood, but most of what you post doesn't deserve a response as it is mostly your opinion or opinions of others. I post opinions as well but back those opinions with verifiable data from independent official sources. Your lack of understanding of the world and economics is staggering with most based upon your trying to interject your own standards into others and judging others based upon your own beliefs
 
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I have addressed everything you have posted that I actually understood, but most of what you post doesn't deserve a response as it is mostly your opinion or opinions of others. I post opinions as well but back those opinions with verifiable data from independent official sources. Your lack of understanding of the world and economics is staggering with most based upon your trying to interject your own standards into others and judging others based upon your own beliefs

I'm sorry, but that rambling rant doesn't excuse you from actually addressing what I say.
 
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I'm sorry, but that rambling rant doesn't excuse you from actually addressing what I say.

Say something of value, post something of value, back the posts up with verifiable data and then I will have something to address. Your typical leftwing bs is nothing more than your opinion, an opinion that I reject.
 
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Wow, what leftwing site did you get this information from? Just goes to show how easily it is to sway your opinion based upon rhetoric. Fox is the number one cable News network on the air but there is a difference between hard news and the opinion segment. You choose to believe what the left wing opinion talking heads tell you, whereas the I prefer the talking heads on Fox. The difference is I trust but verify. You trust completely but never verify because the left wing ideology is more in line. Those so called lies you claim from Fox normally come from both sides and not the hard news anchors. BEA.gov, BLS.gov, and the U.S. Treasury can be your friend but in your case will confuse you with the facts which support the Fox Hard news reporters.

Those on the radical right actually believe that Fox is "fair and balanced", and they can't differentiate between CNN and MSNBC (although there is a huge difference).

Anything that is centrist appears to be on the opposite side to a radical.

Same with those on the far left. They can't tell the difference between CNN and Fox News, for the same reason: anything that isn't radical left must be radical right.

As far as the actual news programming (prior to 8pm), I don't watch it, I work during the day, so my observations are only for the pm programming. I guess I should have disclosed that first.
 
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Those on the radical right actually believe that Fox is "fair and balanced", and they can't differentiate between CNN and MSNBC (although there is a huge difference).

Anything that is centrist appears to be on the opposite side to a radical.

Same with those on the far left. They can't tell the difference between CNN and Fox News, for the same reason: anything that isn't radical left must be radical right.

As far as the actual news programming (prior to 8pm), I don't watch it, I work during the day, so my observations are only for the pm programming. I guess I should have disclosed that first.

I have no problem determining the difference between truth and fiction as well as hard news vs. opinion pieces. You don't seem to be able to distinguish that difference. Fox always has members of both sides in the debate and allows the viewers to decide. You claim Fox lies when the reality is you have provided no evidence to that point and attribute any false statement made by a guest as the opinion of the Fox Commentator.

There is right or wrong and you are on the wrong side of history as well as the wrong side of the economic spectrum that makes any sense at all. Personal responsibility, individual wealth creation, states handling social issues are what made this country great. Neighbor helping neighbor has always been our guiding principles but not any more as you and your ilk promote the Federal Govt. being that neighbor. Liberalism is a total and complete failure and the only economic principles that make any sense are conservative ones.
 
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I think when excessive exaggeration become the rule, as it largely is with those opposing Obama, hate is a reasonable conclusion. And these pages are full of wild exaggerations.

"Hate is a reasonable conclusion".

I like that a lot.
 
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