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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    The Democrats not only voted to give him the authority to go after Saddam, they also agreed on multiple occasions that Sadaam had WMD's, was interested in going Nuclear and that something needed to be done about it.


    One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
    --President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

    "If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
    --President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

    "Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
    --Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

    "He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
    --Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

    "[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
    Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
    -- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

    "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
    -Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

    "Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
    -- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

    "There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
    Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
    -- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001

    "We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
    -- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

    "We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
    -- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

    "Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
    -- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

    "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
    -- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

    "The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
    -- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

    "I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
    -- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

    "There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
    -- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

    "He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
    -- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

    "In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
    -- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

    "We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
    -- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

    "Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
    -- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

    And when Bush was president, there wasn't a huge wave of unopposed Islamic militants tearing through Iraq, commandeering weapons and killing Christains.
    Indeed.

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    The Democrats not only voted to give him the authority to go after Saddam, they also agreed on multiple occasions that Sadaam had WMD's, was interested in going Nuclear and that something needed to be done about it.


    One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
    --President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

    "If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
    --President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

    "Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
    --Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

    "He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
    --Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

    "[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
    Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
    -- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

    "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
    -Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

    "Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
    -- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

    "There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
    Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
    -- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001

    "We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
    -- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

    "We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
    -- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

    "Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
    -- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

    "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
    -- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

    "The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
    -- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

    "I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
    -- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

    "There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
    -- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

    "He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
    -- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

    "In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
    -- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

    "We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
    -- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

    "Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
    -- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

    And when Bush was president, there wasn't a huge wave of unopposed Islamic militants tearing through Iraq, commandeering weapons and killing Christains.
    And BEFORE Bush invaded there were no "Islamic militants tearing through Iraq" either. The invasion and its 200,000 American targets is what brought the largest increase of militants in Iraq EVER. A virtual WAVE of recruits that became ISIS happened because of the ill-conceived invasion. When Bush said "bring it on", the militants took him at his word and what we have now is the result.
    Giving "authority" to the President is not the same as believing we should invade. That decision was Bush's ALONE and he chose POORLY.

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    And BEFORE Bush invaded there were no "Islamic militants tearing through Iraq" either. The invasion and its 200,000 American targets is what brought the largest increase of militants in Iraq EVER. A virtual WAVE of recruits that became ISIS happened because of the ill-conceived invasion. When Bush said "bring it on", the militants took him at his word and what we have now is the result.
    Giving "authority" to the President is not the same as believing we should invade. That decision was Bush's ALONE and he chose POORLY.
    That is your opinion and after 9/11 you would have ignored the threat that liberals knew was there just like you ignored the threat of Islamic radicals in Syria, Egypt, Gaza. Only in the liberal world do thousands of Americans have to die before you react and then it is too late.

    This is what "your" President is allowing to happen and still you don't get it. When will you get it and how many Americans have to die?

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    That is your opinion and after 9/11 you would have ignored the threat that liberals knew was there just like you ignored the threat of Islamic radicals in Syria, Egypt, Gaza. Only in the liberal world do thousands of Americans have to die before you react and then it is too late.

    This is what "your" President is allowing to happen and still you don't get it. When will you get it and how many Americans have to die?

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    And this is what YOUR President MADE happen as sure as if he started ISIS himself. 4000 American died and 20,000 maimed to make ISIS a reality, that's the sad truth. There was no threat to America from Iraq until Bush upset the balance of power in the region and installed a Shiite terrorist as President of Iraq.
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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    And this is what YOUR President MADE happen as sure as if he started ISIS himself. 4000 American died and 20,000 maimed to make ISIS a reality, that's the sad truth. There was no threat to America from Iraq until Bush upset the balance of power in the region and installed a Shiite terrorist as President of Iraq.
    What We Left Behind - The New Yorker
    Got it, your opinion noted. How many Americans have to die before you realize Obama incompetence in managing the peace in Iraq and poor management of the Syrian Crisis has made this country less secure? Wonder how strong ISIS would be had an arrogant Obama not abandoned the country and not negotiated a better agreement with Iraq? You buy the liberal rhetoric which continues to be the case. There is no reason we shouldn't have kept an air base in the Kurd Controlled area and there is no way American weapons would be in the hands of ISIS with strong U.S. leadership which of course we do not have. Your support for Obama is misguided at best.

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    You may not have received the memo...but the Bush presidency ended 6 years ago. Since then Obama has backed fundamentalist terrorist upheavals in Egypt, Libya, and Syria, and had his head up his ass on Iraq. You ALSO may have missed that NOW...after all of this...he is engaging. And THAT show you how ****ing inept he is. If its not our business, why engage? And if it IS our business...where has he been?

    But I get it. Its not his fault. He has no responsibility. Nothing is ever his responsibility.
    Dude by by your reasoning Hitler shouldn't even be brought up by historians for persecuting the Jews because that was so long ago.

    And I thought the repubs were all for taking responsibility for your actions. Guess I was wrong.

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Obama is a political coward. He shifts blame on anything he sees at the time as a negative and rapidly takes credit for anything positive. He will not take ownership of anything unless he thinks it will elevate him.
    Get help. Even your avatar is seething in hatred for the man.

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    You are very emotional aren't you? I don't hate Obama even now. I would not waste such a powerful emotion on him. I do despise the damage he has done, and is continuing to do.
    Well looks to me like you are either not being honest or you're fooling yourself. I hope the ODS doesn't create too many stomach acids or push your blood pressure too high. You're only hurting yourself.

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    It's exponentially more insightful than your desperate mitigation's and blame.

    Hey, someone wants to critique the Presidents policies ? Yea fine, it's even " Patriotic" just as long as that President represents the GOP.

    Critiquing Obama and his disastrous policies ? No that's not Patriotic, that's hateful, cruel and racist.

    Give me a break. It's not personal, in fact, I cant think of a greater waste of energy than to become emotionally tied to a total stranger.
    Of course its personal with Obama. It's a gut level hatred that becomes more and more obvious as time passes.
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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Got it, your opinion noted. How many Americans have to die before you realize Obama incompetence in managing the peace in Iraq and poor management of the Syrian Crisis has made this country less secure? Wonder how strong ISIS would be had an arrogant Obama not abandoned the country and not negotiated a better agreement with Iraq? You buy the liberal rhetoric which continues to be the case. There is no reason we shouldn't have kept an air base in the Kurd Controlled area and there is no way American weapons would be in the hands of ISIS with strong U.S. leadership which of course we do not have. Your support for Obama is misguided at best.
    Blah, blah, blah. What a steaming pantload.

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