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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Well if Obama is enept in his handling of Iraq and Afghanistan, especially wrt "winning the war", it also underlines how utterly and fully incompetent the administration that put American boots on the ground there in the first place, was.

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, CJ.

    My questions here are why we are doing this unilaterally? What are the reasons that our allies are not backing this action and joining us?

    Since I don't know the answers to those questions, I have come to the conclusion that the US is going to be blamed either way. Acting alone makes us look like aggressors by one side or the other, even though this is supposedly a humanitarian effort. So are we going to continue to help the people trapped in the mountains, or is this it? They're going to be hungry and thirsty next week too, if we don't get them out of harm's way. If we don't act, we are somehow shirking our duty, but our allies apparently don't agree with us. Maybe if we didn't have the reputation for being "policeman to the world," things would be different, but they sure don't have a problem expecting our help when they need it.

    And lastly, our being invaded by thousands upon thousands of illegal children and adults, and being forced to feed, clothe, and house them was also called a "humanitarian crisis." Those words seem to be coming up a lot lately in the news.
    You are spot on, Polgara!

    I like the move the President has taken so far, but it is difficult for America to get Allies right now because of the uncertainty of American leadership. Obama has already announced to the world that there will be no boots on the ground. Would that statement inspire your friends or frighten the enemy?

    The USA, like it or not, is the world leader and we need America to act. I think we all know that if George Bush was President this wouldn't be happening, that there would be many countries aligned with the US, just as there was in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    But now? I don't think so. The Militant leaders are simply much stronger and determined, and millions will die as a consequence.

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by jaydeehess View Post
    Well if Obama is enept in his handling of Iraq and Afghanistan, especially wrt "winning the war", it also underlines how utterly and fully incompetent the administration that put American boots on the ground there in the first place, was.
    That makes no sense.

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Riiiiight.
    Have you read your link yet?

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    If the goal to prevent further genocide why didn't America foam a coalition months ago when ISIS crossed the border into Iraq? BTW this genocide was happening all along in Syria.

    Because it wasn't Politically relevent or advantageous to the Obama administration or the Democrats who're up for re-election in November.

    Now, he may be looking at a real Genocide and a Genocide after he chose to clear every semblance of the American Military out of Iraq.

    To Obama and the Democrats, nothing is done unless its Politically beneficial

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    If the goal to prevent further genocide why didn't America foam a coalition months ago when ISIS crossed the border into Iraq? BTW this genocide was happening all along in Syria.
    the answer is primarily political... Obama couldn't take the chance of displeasing his base before an election.

    FWIW, I don't think we should be doing ****....except maybe evacuating non-combatants to the nearest fiendly port as a humanitarian gesture

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    not our circus, not our monkeys.


    if ISIS ever comes a callin'... destroy them with extreme malice.... but as long as they are dancing in thier own backyard, **** em'.. let em' dance.

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by jaydeehess View Post
    Well if Obama is enept in his handling of Iraq and Afghanistan, especially wrt "winning the war", it also underlines how utterly and fully incompetent the administration that put American boots on the ground there in the first place, was.


    Actually isis wasn't on the run killing Christians and threatening Genocide when Bush was President.

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Here's another very possible scenario.

    The US allows ISIS to grow in power and scope. They already control more land mass than Great Britain, a far cry more money and stolen US armament than Al Qaeda ever had. They march into southern Iraq taking over Baghdad and the oil fields, then onto Jordan. Iran and Saudi Arabia responds with all out war, possibly blocking the Persian Gulf. Oil markets cause a sudden rise in gas prices, while the weakened global economy causes stock markets start to tank. Eventually they hit the US on its own soil with multiple terrorists attacks. There's your next ten years or WW3.
    And we still dont care because electric cars are taking off, and MPG standards are in effect.

    And if gas was $10 I would not care. And neither would any smart person in USA.

    USA gas would be in a separate market because of ISIS, and we would export oil for massive profits!

    they would not attack USA, because they have limited goals on the other side of the planet, and we WOULD NOT ATTACK them.
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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Because it wasn't Politically relevent or advantageous to the Obama administration or the Democrats who're up for re-election in November.

    Now, he may be looking at a real Genocide and a Genocide after he chose to clear every semblance of the American Military out of Iraq.

    To Obama and the Democrats, nothing is done unless its Politically beneficial
    We have looked back to the Holocaust of the 1940's and asked ourselves how this could possibly happen. Now we know.

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    Re: American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Actually isis wasn't on the run killing Christians and threatening Genocide when Bush was President.
    It seems Community Organizers are only familiar with "Power Vacuums" when it comes to cleaning their carpets.

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