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    Re: U.S. considering 'limited' military action as militants gain in northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    as much as I'd like to see you out front.
    Meh, the front is for people that don't like being surrounded. My unit crest read "H Minus".

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    Re: U.S. considering 'limited' military action as militants gain in northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Meh, the front is for people that don't like being surrounded. My unit crest read "H Minus".
    Oh, I see.
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    Re: U.S. considering 'limited' military action as militants gain in northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Then get your damn boots and rifle and head east. Americans are sick of shedding blood and treasure in the ME!
    Volunteer military, dude. Nobody who doesn't want to go has to.
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    Re: U.S. considering 'limited' military action as militants gain in northern Iraq

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    Volunteer military, dude. Nobody who doesn't want to go has to.
    Howdy Mad, a very good reason for a draft. Anyway, true enough, nobody that doesn't want to go has to, but that wasn't the point I was making, which is that IMO anybody that thinks somebody else should, ought to lead the way.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: U.S. considering 'limited' military action as militants gain in northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Howdy Mad, a very good reason for a draft. Anyway, true enough, nobody that doesn't want to go has to, but that wasn't the point I was making, which is that IMO anybody that thinks somebody else should, ought to lead the way.
    For a moment, try to imagine if this ridiculous standard was applied to anything else. Want to stop illegal immigration? Go join the Border Guard or Minutemen. Want to cut down on crime? Become a cop or put on a bat costume. Otherwise, you have no right to an opinion on the matter.

    Somehow, this ad hom constitutes an entire argument in its own right against any sort of military intervention.
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    Re: U.S. considering 'limited' military action as militants gain in northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Thanks for the link. That's concerning.

    White House won’t commit to stopping looming genocide of Christians, Kurds in Iraq

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ing-genocide-/
    This all plays well for Russia who doesn't want the world focusing on them and the Ukraine.

    If we hit ISIS, it will probably be substantial. Iraq, Syria, Libya, I/P and Ebola will all eventually level out but our ongoing struggle with Putin, trying to fight for the Russian economy, is the real future threat.
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    Re: U.S. considering 'limited' military action as militants gain in northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Oh, I see.
    So, if someone doesn't join, their support of a position is fake. And if someone does join, their support of a position is fake. That's quite a retreat from intellectual confrontation you've prepared.

    All support of the counter position is fake!


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    Re: U.S. considering 'limited' military action as militants gain in northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    For a moment, try to imagine if this ridiculous standard was applied to anything else. Want to stop illegal immigration? Go join the Border Guard or Minutemen. Want to cut down on crime? Become a cop or put on a bat costume. Otherwise, you have no right to an opinion on the matter.

    Somehow, this ad hom constitutes an entire argument in its own right against any sort of military intervention.
    No, Mad, you're being absurd. I'm referring to the insanity of Iraq and the failed policy to attack the country that hadn't harmed us to begin with, and then the further insanity to go back in, and particularly as advocated by at least two people already on this board, to do it all the way.

    I'm all for a defensive military to protect ourselves from any other that would seek to attack us, wars of choice, imperialism, hegemony, are out.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: U.S. considering 'limited' military action as militants gain in northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I'm referring to the insanity of Iraq and the failed policy to attack the country that hadn't harmed us to begin with, and then the further insanity to go back in, and particularly as advocated by at least two people already on this board, to do it all the way.
    Yeah, sure. Everyone that doesn't agree with you is insane. More running from confrontation.
    Last edited by ecofarm; 08-07-14 at 07:11 PM.

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    Re: U.S. considering 'limited' military action as militants gain in northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    So, if someone doesn't join, their support of a position is fake. And if someone does join, their support of a position is fake. That's quite a retreat from intellectual confrontation you've prepared.

    All support of the counter position is fake!

    Why is it you continue to use this word fake, I've never said that. I believe your support for further military action in Iraq is genuine, I just think you should be out front of this one.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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