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    Re: U.S. considering 'limited' military action as militants gain in northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    We can help the Kurds by sending them military hardware, but if we're going to get involved any further, then we need to do it all the way. Surely, we must have learned that limited warfare is not a good thing. That was the lesson of Vietnam, of Iraq. Little "military actions" have unintended consequences.
    That was not a lesson of Iraq, ever heard of the surge?

    Our issue with Iraq was having way too many objectives, if we want to go in again just have one objective and one only, eliminate ISIS.

    No nation-building

    No democracy-bull****

    No toppling governments

    Eliminate ISIS, make a clear threat if things like this happen again, and leave.
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    Re: U.S. considering 'limited' military action as militants gain in northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    We can help the Kurds by sending them military hardware, but if we're going to get involved any further, then we need to do it all the way. Surely, we must have learned that limited warfare is not a good thing. That was the lesson of Vietnam, of Iraq. Little "military actions" have unintended consequences.
    I agree, however, the cost of civilian lives to "do it all the way" IF that's even possible, is too much. We're no better then they if we think we can kill civilians to save civilians.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: U.S. considering 'limited' military action as militants gain in northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    We broke Iraq, so we have some responsibility to rout ISIS.
    America screwed up another country so that gives America the right to screw it up some more?

    I totally disagree.

    If a mechanic wrecks your engine during an oil change, your first thought is not to take it back to the same mechanic for a tire rotation...you go somewhere else or do it yourself.


    Believe whatever you want...America should butt out.


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    Re: U.S. considering 'limited' military action as militants gain in northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    America screwed up another country so that gives America the right to screw it up some more.

    I totally disagree.

    If a mechanic wrecks your engine during an oil change, your first thought is not to take it back to the same mechanic for a tire rotation...you go somewhere else or do it yourself.


    Believe whatever you want...America should butt out.


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    Re: U.S. considering 'limited' military action as militants gain in northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I agree, however, the cost of civilian lives to "do it all the way" IF that's even possible, is too much. We're no better then they if we think we can kill civilians to save civilians.
    We killed civilians while wiping out the Nazis. If we're not willing to risk killing civilians, then we shouldn't go to war.
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    Re: U.S. considering 'limited' military action as militants gain in northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    That was not a lesson of Iraq, ever heard of the surge?

    Our issue with Iraq was having way too many objectives, if we want to go in again just have one objective and one only, eliminate ISIS.

    No nation-building

    No democracy-bull****

    No toppling governments

    Eliminate ISIS, make a clear threat if things like this happen again, and leave.
    The US has opened a can of worms, a mess that threatens the entire Middle East of drowning in this sectarian violence, and, its still isn't clear whether this is by design, or shear incompetence, for years now.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: U.S. considering 'limited' military action as militants gain in northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    We killed civilians while wiping out the Nazis. If we're not willing to risk killing civilians, then we shouldn't go to war.
    Your talking my language.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: U.S. considering 'limited' military action as militants gain in northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    I think we ARE going to see strikes against ISIS in support of the Kurds soon.
    Tens of thousands Christians and other religious minorities are in a dire situation as well
    In today's press conference, Obama seems to be giving in.
    I think it's pretty Dam urgent we act to help them.
    I strongly advocate this, tho not any strikes helping Maliki's mini-Iraq in the South.


    U.S. considering 'limited' military action as militants gain in northern Iraq
    ISIS claims control of strategic Mosul Dam, Yazidi community under threat
    Thomson Reuters Posted: Aug 07, 2014 8:42 AM ET Last Updated: Aug 07, 2014 2:52 PM ET
    U.S. considering 'limited' military action as militants gain in northern Iraq - World - CBC News
    Aerial assistance of the Kurds and buying their oil should be alright, but to go any further would not be a really good idea.

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    Re: U.S. considering 'limited' military action as militants gain in northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    And let a religious minority get exterminated? No
    Christianity isn't a minority religion. Are you volunteering for this war?
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: U.S. considering 'limited' military action as militants gain in northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The US has opened a can of worms, a mess that threatens the entire Middle East of drowning in this sectarian violence, and, its still isn't clear whether this is by design, or shear incompetence, for years now.
    Incompetence, outside of oil the ME is just a sandy rock that means nothing to us, and I don't think ISIS wants to give us oil, and if they do, it's to get more money and to raise their power, which of course can then bite us in the ass.
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