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    Re: U.S. considering 'limited' military action as militants gain in northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Um, I've posted that numerous times, so no, not again and certainly not for a dishonest person such as yourself, take a hike.
    Yes, you've posted numerous times how the US has supported terrorists all over the world. Once a day anyway.

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    Re: U.S. considering 'limited' military action as militants gain in northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Only when the repubs are in charge. Kosova was a good example when Clinton was president. Libya didn't involve any boots on the ground either.
    Trust me when I say, that there were boots on the ground. It's one thing to pick out stationary targets from satellite images, it's a whole other thing entirely to hit mobile targets on the ground like a tank or infantry formation. To accomplish something like that, you need someone on the ground coordinating with aircraft in the air, or risk bombing friendlies.

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    Re: U.S. considering 'limited' military action as militants gain in northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    There are boots on the ground in Kosovo and fyi our soldiers have died there.

    American soldier fatally shot on Army base in Kosovo: report - Washington Times


    FYI one of our diplomats was killed in Libya and its a mess. Hooray for interventionism!

    Oh please, there were no casualties during the military action and they didn't end up like the quagmire of Iraq, which is what your post elluded to would happen. I think you're grasping for straws here.

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    Re: U.S. considering 'limited' military action as militants gain in northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    Trust me when I say, that there were boots on the ground. It's one thing to pick out stationary targets from satellite images, it's a whole other thing entirely to hit mobile targets on the ground like a tank or infantry formation. To accomplish something like that, you need someone on the ground coordinating with aircraft in the air, or risk bombing friendlies.
    I don't need to trust you as I'm well aware of that having been a munitions specialist in the Air Force and my dad was in Special Forces. However boots on the ground typically means an invasion force.

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    Re: U.S. considering 'limited' military action as militants gain in northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Step back and look at the situation in the Middle East from a distance. It's burning, and its burning largely due to insane US policies there for years. IS has been empowered and strengthened due in large part to US interference in Syria. Russia and China warned three years ago that US interference in Syria would cause the crisis to spread throughout the region, and behold, that's what we have. The forces of Hussein, Mubarak, Gaddafi and Assad never gave quarters to these militant Islamic jihadists. The US has totally ****ed the ME up. We need to leave. Let Israel, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Egypt crush these guys, and lets keep our meddling nose OUT.

    If it's burning because we messed it up, then we should probably fix it before the whole region starts WW3. The rest of them are not currently solving anything, and if we allow a multinational conflict involving Israel, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Egypt, then say goodbye to stable oil prices and the global economy.
    Einstein, "science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

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    Re: U.S. considering 'limited' military action as militants gain in northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    Trust me when I say, that there were boots on the ground. It's one thing to pick out stationary targets from satellite images, it's a whole other thing entirely to hit mobile targets on the ground like a tank or infantry formation. To accomplish something like that, you need someone on the ground coordinating with aircraft in the air, or risk bombing friendlies.
    We already have American advisors on the ground now are you saying we don't? We also have drones that are far more precise than "satellite images".

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    Re: U.S. considering 'limited' military action as militants gain in northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    We already have American advisors on the ground now are you saying we don't? We also have drones that are far more precise than "satellite images".
    Officially though, those advisors are meant to check up on the status of Iraqi armed forces and secure american assets. What I'm referring to is Special Forces that embedded within front-line forces. Fair point I suppose on the drone part, I just still think of planning sessions using satellite images, out of date to be sure but perhaps I'm just nostalgic like that.

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    I don't need to trust you as I'm well aware of that having been a munitions specialist in the Air Force and my dad was in Special Forces. However boots on the ground typically means an invasion force.
    To you and me then yes, boots on the ground is equated to invasion force. But to the layman out there, when they say there are no boots on the ground, they believe that there are no American Soldiers out there whatsoever. All that phrase does is make it easier on politicians to say that a man was KIA due to "classified reasons" and never have to face the public scrutiny.

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