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    Re: U.S. considering 'limited' military action as militants gain in northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Or maybe... you are just ignoring the logic and reason behind an opposing position.



    You claimed myself and others wanted to send troops. That's just making up BS.

    So, what do we have... Running from confrontation by labeling the opposition insane and making crap up.
    Attacking Iraq was insane widely acknowledged by Americans now, and nearly universally acknowledge globally. And we've had troops in Iraq already, 4,500 of them lost their lives there, and now, apparently, military engagement is being discussed again, and we have troops on the ground already, I believe one thousand last I heard, and that doesn't count any covert operations that may be going on.
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    Re: U.S. considering 'limited' military action as militants gain in northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Do try to maintain the point in question. MadLib is currently and has before confronted your BS about ~"serve immediately or your support of the opposing position is fake".
    Again, why do you continue to use the word fake, and particularly in quotations, when I have clearly stated that I THINK YOUR SUPPORT OF FURTHER MILITARY ENGAGEMENT IN IRAQ IS GENUINE?? Just put your life on the line, not my sons!
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    Re: U.S. considering 'limited' military action as militants gain in northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Attacking Iraq was insane widely acknowledged by Americans now,
    Some think it was wrong, but "insane" is typical intellectual cowardice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Again, why do you continue to use the word fake, and particularly in quotations, when I have clearly stated that I THINK YOUR SUPPORT OF FURTHER MILITARY ENGAGEMENT IN IRAQ IS GENUINE?? Just put your life on the line, not my sons!
    Ease up on the capslock, there's no need to yell. Let's keep the emotion under some kind of control. Explain this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Another fallacious argument. Talking about it, is one thing, support for more US blood and treasure to be spent, should be accompanied with his commitment, yours too.
    If not because you believe his support is otherwise not legitimate, then why? Presuming you cannot come up with anything else, we can all see the emotion-based nonsense of that intellectual cowardice.

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    Re: U.S. considering 'limited' military action as militants gain in northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Some think it was wrong, but "insane" is typical intellectual cowardice.



    Ease up on the capslock, there's no need to yell. Let's keep the emotion under some kind of control. Explain this:



    If not because you believe his support is otherwise not legitimate, then why? Presuming you cannot come up with anything else, we can all see the emotion-based nonsense of that intellectual cowardice.
    You are the coward who won't man up and stand your position. And for Pete's sake, STOP TELLING ME HOW TO POST. Haven't you something better to be doing? Insane is the perfect definition of US foreign policy in the ME regardless of your warmongering rationale. And far more than "some" think it was wrong, that number is 57% and Eco, that number has been steadily climbing. And, IMO, his support should include him leading the charge against an enemy that our failed policies in the ME are strengthening. Now I can only hope that if there is any action at all, that it is truly, limited, although limited to what, that's pretty open ended.
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    Re: U.S. considering 'limited' military action as militants gain in northern Iraq

    I don't usually advocate using our military but unfortunately, we may not have any other good solutions to stopping a genocide and spreading terrorist group.

    A heavy set of air strikes would accomplish several things. It would probably save 100,000 people in Iraq, severely damage ISIS and their ability to mount an attack on our own interests or Baghdad.

    And it would send a signal to Russia that we're not screwing around or afraid to use force. The whole ME is becoming an unstable wildfire and we're sitting on our hands.
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    Re: U.S. considering 'limited' military action as militants gain in northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You are the coward who won't man up and stand your position.
    What about people that cannot? They are not permitted to hold a political position because of their age or disability?

    And for Pete's sake, STOP TELLING ME HOW TO POST.
    Screaming is a sure sign of emotional distress. It demonstrates the lack of logic and reason of your absurd claim.

    Insane is the perfect definition of US foreign policy in the ME regardless of your warmongering rationale.
    More intellectual cowardice.

    And far more than "some" think it was wrong, that number is 57% and Eco, that number has been steadily climbing.
    Wrong, perhaps, but "insane" is nothing more than running away from a position that one is unable or incapable of addressing.

    And, IMO, his support should include him leading the charge against an enemy that our failed policies in the ME are strengthening.
    That's a stupid claim. No one respects it and now matter how much you scream it will remain idiocy.

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    Re: U.S. considering 'limited' military action as militants gain in northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    What about people that cannot? They are not permitted to hold a political position because of their age or disability?



    Screaming is a sure sign of emotional distress. It demonstrates the lack of logic and reason of your absurd claim.



    More intellectual cowardice.



    Wrong, perhaps, but "insane" is nothing more than running away from a position that one is unable or incapable of addressing.



    That's a stupid claim. No one respects it and now matter how much you scream it will remain idiocy.


    You should know by now that I don't care what you call it. For a dozen years the US's foreign policy in the ME has been insanity, lunacy, and what it's causing is unbelievable pain and suffering. It's rather pathetic that there remains people supportive of it, though that number is shrinking.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: U.S. considering 'limited' military action as militants gain in northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    For a dozen years the US's foreign policy in the ME has been insanity, lunacy,
    Or perhaps you've simply failed to grasp your opponents' position and have substituted false motives and narratives.

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    Re: U.S. considering 'limited' military action as militants gain in northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    You don't get it, didn't read the story or my post.
    We Should HAVE sent them heavier weapons they asked for Weeks ago, but now it's too Late.
    And I am Not calling for an invasion, but limited air/missile strikes.

    They (USA friendly) and and their Oil Rich province, and Electric-providing Dams, and Heavy Christian population, are in IMMINENT danger of slaughter.
    GOT IT?

    Many are stranded/under Siege on a mountain as I post.
    ANYONE Speak English?
    This is an IMMINENT danger/slaughter situation.
    No, all these Clowns see this as sending in 100,000 USA troops!
    The objections do NOT address the immediacy of the situation as it exists NOW, despite the fact I presented it as such.
    Oh. You just want to support them with air strikes. I suppose that would be appropriate.

    But, if we're going to send in the troops, then let's declare war and do it right this time.
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    Re: U.S. considering 'limited' military action as militants gain in northern Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    I don't usually advocate using our military but unfortunately, we may not have any other good solutions to stopping a genocide and spreading terrorist group.

    A heavy set of air strikes would accomplish several things. It would probably save 100,000 people in Iraq, severely damage ISIS and their ability to mount an attack on our own interests or Baghdad.

    And it would send a signal to Russia that we're not screwing around or afraid to use force. The whole ME is becoming an unstable wildfire and we're sitting on our hands.
    Prior uses of our military in Iraq, and Libya as well as our policy in Syria have given rise and strength to militant Islamic jihadists as it is, more of the same medicine won't help.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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