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    Re: Suburban Detroit homeowner convicted of second-degree murder in porch shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I never she was, however the homeowner thought she was, hence the reason he shot her. Right?

    What happened here, is that the ability for citizens to protect their property has been taken away. Any time that happens, crime goes up.
    To "protect something", there must be a threat against that thing. In this case, there was no threat.
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    Re: Suburban Detroit homeowner convicted of second-degree murder in porch shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Good! Better to hesitate and be correct rather than murder an innocent person.
    Fear and lack of training contributed to this.
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    Re: Suburban Detroit homeowner convicted of second-degree murder in porch shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Fear and lack of training contributed to this.
    Don't forget stupidity. Only a fool would do what this Neanderthal did and shoot this girl through the door.

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    Re: Suburban Detroit homeowner convicted of second-degree murder in porch shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    And those who kill you can end up just like the loser in this story, eh?

    Does anyone get that message?

    If you kill everyone who knocks on your door you might end up in prison.

    Think about that the next time that you answer your door.
    I think you missed the entire first sentence where I think the jury made the right call.

    My point is that there are hundreds of ways you can die by going out in the middle of the night alone when you are absolutely hammered. When I was in college, no students got murdered. However, three did die because they went out drunk and alone in the middle of the night. One passed out on train tracks while walking home during a heavy rain storm. One fell into a lake and drowned. One got knocked out when he fell down some stairs in a secluded location he had no reason to be and froze to death; he wasn't found till springtime when the snowdrift he ended up in melted. Literally nothing good ever comes from wandering around drunk and alone in the middle of the night. Yes, this woman shouldn't have been shot and I'm glad the guy who did it is going to jail. Let's take a moment to also recognize that the woman shouldn't have been out drunk and alone in the middle of the night. I'm not blaming her for getting shot; I'm encouraging others to take a moment to remind those they love who are young and crazy to be careful, be with friends, and watch out for each other when they are having a good time.

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    Re: Suburban Detroit homeowner convicted of second-degree murder in porch shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Anti-gunners hate gun owners, anyway. Since owning a gun is a civil right, I'n not interested in how this dude made us look.
    What you seem to be missing here is that with rights come responsibilities. You have the right of free speech but you are not allowed to yell "fire" in a crowded theater. And, of course, you have the right to bear arms but you are not allowed to commit murder with them. The only people we allow to carry no responsibility along with their rights are babies.
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    Re: Suburban Detroit homeowner convicted of second-degree murder in porch shooting

    [QUOTE=CycloneWanderer;1063617469]I think you missed the entire first sentence where I think the jury made the right call.

    My point is that there are hundreds of ways you can die by going out in the middle of the night alone when you are absolutely hammered. When I was in college, no students got murdered. However, three did die because they went out drunk and alone in the middle of the night. One passed out on train tracks while walking home during a heavy rain storm. One fell into a lake and drowned. One got knocked out when he fell down some stairs in a secluded location he had no reason to be and froze to death; he wasn't found till springtime when the snowdrift he ended up in melted. Literally nothing good ever comes from wandering around drunk and alone in the middle of the night. Yes, this woman shouldn't have been shot and I'm glad the guy who did it is going to jail. Let's take a moment to also recognize that the woman shouldn't have been out drunk and alone in the middle of the night.
    I'm not blaming her for getting shot; I'm encouraging others to take a moment to remind those they love who are young and crazy to be careful, be with friends, and watch out for each other when they are having a good time.[
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    Fine idea, but it won't stop things like what happened in this case from happening again, today or tomorrow,

    Maybe if you and all of your friends could take a trip to the Detroit, Michigan area and go door to door with your message, you could change things there.

    Maybe, but I'm betting that it's not going to happen.

    I think that the more likely result is that you won't enjoy your trip.

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    Re: Suburban Detroit homeowner convicted of second-degree murder in porch shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Don't forget stupidity.
    Only a fool would do what this Neanderthal did and shoot this girl through the door.



    Unfortunately fools with guns are supported all over the USA by other fools with guns.

    They even have a national organization .

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    Re: Suburban Detroit homeowner convicted of second-degree murder in porch shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Fine idea, but it won't stop things like what happened in this case from happening again, today or tomorrow,

    Maybe if you and all of your friends could take a trip to the Detroit, Michigan area and go door to door with your message, you could change things there.

    Maybe, but I'm betting that it's not going to happen.

    I think that the more likely result is that you won't enjoy your trip.
    You're a grump today. I don't give a **** about the gun angle of this story anymore; it's tragic and a jury handled it. I'm not trying to change the world. I just don't want anything bad like this to happen to the people I love and know something I can do about it: talk with them about the dangers of being lost, drunk, and alone in the middle of the night. I don't care if they drink and party and have fun, but I want them to be careful and make sure them and their friends are looking out for each other. It doesn't take long and thought that perhaps others might want to do the same for the people they love.

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    Re: Suburban Detroit homeowner convicted of second-degree murder in porch shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Before or after you put a few dozen holes in their bodies?

    Fill us in.




    Most people with massive blood loss are zero threat to anyone.
    I'm on your side, more or less. You can't shoot everybody who knocks on your door. What's next - shoot anyone on the street who MIGHT be a threat to you?


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.

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    Re: Suburban Detroit homeowner convicted of second-degree murder in porch shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneWanderer View Post
    You're a grump today.
    I don't give a **** about the gun angle of this story anymore; it's tragic and a jury handled it. I'm not trying to change the world. I just don't want anything bad like this to happen to the people I love and know something I can do about it: talk with them about the dangers of being lost, drunk, and alone in the middle of the night. I don't care if they drink and party and have fun, but I want them to be careful and make sure them and their friends are looking out for each other. It doesn't take long and thought that perhaps others might want to do the same for the people they love.



    Wrong, I'm a 71-year old guy who's a grump everyday because reality is an unforgiving bitch that has zero patience for losers.

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