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1,000-member secretive progressive journalist group uncovered

Montecresto said:
When will you guys ever listen. You've been told repeatedly that for "real news", you must go international. The US media has been dropping the ball for a long time. And, spin it as you will, but where it really matters, the press covers for both parties.

Al Jazeera has been the leader in that [it is] literally changing people’s minds and attitudes. And like it or hate it, it is really effective… In fact viewership of al Jazeera is going up in the United States because it’s real news. You may not agree with it, but you feel like you’re getting real news around the clock instead of a million commercials and, you know, arguments between talking heads and the kind of stuff that we do on our news which, you know, is not particularly informative to us, let alone foreigners.

Clinton Says Al Jazeera Is 'Real News' While U.S. Slips Behind in a Global Information War | TIME.com
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That's quite right. The American media are among the worst in the English world, rivaled only by the BBC in Britain. Al Jazeera is very good while Fox News is by far the best American based news network.

None of this news should come as a surprise because American Leftists, like Leftists everywhere, all repeat the same fallacies and the same debating points.

This is all rather Orwellian. Some of the more clever leftists should be questioning their beliefs, how they got that way, and their sources.
 
Montecresto said:
Oh for Pete's sake CB, stop being such a partisan. Acting like the right wing is squeaky clean, pure as the wind driven snow and operates out loud and in the open all the time. This **** happens on both sides.

Groundswell is the name of a secretive coalition of Conservative activists and journalists exposed in July 2013.[1] The group started out meeting in the offices of the Conservative legal group Judicial Watch in early 2013 and includes members such as Ginni Thomas (wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas), former Rep. Allen West, Executive Stephen Bannon of Breitbart News, former US Ambassador John Bolton and Catherine Engelbrecht, True the Vote founder.[2][3]

Groundswell group - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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There is a disclaimer that "This page has some issues". And so it does. Undermining Karl Rove???
 
Grant said:
That's quite right. The American media are among the worst in the English world, rivaled only by the BBC in Britain. Al Jazeera is very good while Fox News is by far the best American based news network.

None of this news should come as a surprise because American Leftists, like Leftists everywhere, all repeat the same fallacies and the same debating points.

This is all rather Orwellian. Some of the more clever leftists should be questioning their beliefs, how they got that way, and their sources.
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What the hell does that gibberish mean. Right wing partisan hacks are better than left wing partisan hacks. Why don't you educate yourself one of these days and stop acting like dream vacation peddlers have special qualifications for FP commentary. Go watch the entire session, with all the committees questions and Hillary Clinton's answers. Learn something for a change.
 
Montecresto said:
And I linked you an example that shows the right is just as secret and clever.
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Heh, right after you called me a partisan because I suggested they weren't. But I disagree, I don't think they are as clever in this particular manner. I think the left is far better keeping their behind the scenes plotting to themselves.
 
clownboy said:
Heh, right after you called me a partisan because I suggested they weren't. But I disagree, I don't think they are as clever in this particular manner. I think the left is far better keeping their behind the scenes plotting to themselves.
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Obviously not. They've both been exposed, right here in this thread.
 
Montecresto said:
What the hell does that gibberish mean. Right wing partisan hacks are better than left wing partisan hacks. Why don't you educate yourself one of these days and stop acting like dream vacation peddlers have special qualifications for FP commentary. Go watch the entire session, with all the committees questions and Hillary Clinton's answers. Learn something for a change.
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What Leftists do not understand is the vast majority of people are in the middle, a group never mentioned by the left. Until you understand that truth you will continue the same nonsense that it is the left versus the right, whereas it is really the left versus everyone else.
 
clownboy said:
Heh, right after you called me a partisan because I suggested they weren't. But I disagree, I don't think they are as clever in this particular manner. I think the left is far better keeping their behind the scenes plotting to themselves.
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Oh, exactly. Their greatest success so far has been Barrack Obama, a candidate who lied his way to victory, except for the 'Change' part.
 
Grant said:
What Leftists do not understand is the vast majority of people are in the middle, a group never mentioned by the left. Until you understand that truth you will continue the same nonsense that it is the left versus the right, whereas it is really the left versus everyone else.
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:lamo now the right is the center, lol. Talk about Orwellian!
 
Grant said:
Oh, exactly. Their greatest success so far has been Barrack Obama, a candidate who lied his way to victory, except for the 'Change' part.
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Where the hell did you grow up? All presidents lie.
 
Grant said:
That it is on every news site seems to demonstrate the truth of the OP.
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The op?????

So what is it this time Grant. You're denying Hillary Clinton testified to a select house committee telling them that US news is ****, while Al Jazeera is real news. Just turn the light back off dude, you'll feel safer.
 
Montecresto said:
Where the hell did you grow up? All presidents lie.
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And when we find out about those lies depends upon how good they are at keeping the secrets. In Obama's case we won't until he's long out of office. Bush's life and lies were an open book within his first term.
 
Montecresto said:
The op?????

So what is it this time Grant. You're denying Hillary Clinton testified to a select house committee telling them that US news is ****, while Al Jazeera is real news. Just turn the light back off dude, you'll feel safer.
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Denying it? I never even commented on it!

You're behaving rather strangely.
 
Grant said:
What Leftists do not understand is the vast majority of people are in the middle, a group never mentioned by the left. Until you understand that truth you will continue the same nonsense that it is the left versus the right, whereas it is really the left versus everyone else.
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The vast majority of people are progressives.

Grant said:
Oh, exactly. Their greatest success so far has been Barrack Obama, a candidate who lied his way to victory, except for the 'Change' part.
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Because republicans never lie, amirite?
Ever heard of WMDs and Irak?
 
Grant said:
Some lie more consistently that others and, as in the case of BHO, a great deal more than any of his predecessors.
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He's not even close to even 10% of Bush and Cheney's bull****.
 
Godric said:
He's not even close to even 10% of Bush and Cheney's bull****.
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The supposed Weapons of Mass destruction " lie " was a left wing false narrative.

You got sucked into it apparently.

Your gullibility doesn't equate to Republican " lies "
 
Fenton said:
The supposed Weapons of Mass destruction " lie " was a left wing false narrative.

You got sucked into it apparently.

Your gullibility doesn't equate to Republican " lies "
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This points to the possible truth behind the OP. Many poorly informed people appear to support this lie.
 
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