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    4 states face gay marriage showdown in Cincinnati

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    4 states face gay marriage showdown in Cincinnati

    DETROIT Michigan's gay marriage ban is set for another legal showdown, only this one involves more players, more judges and likely more drama.On Wednesday, the historic civil rights case that centers on the right to marry heads to the U.S. 6th Circuit Court of Appeals in Cincinnati, where three federal appeals judges will decide the fate of same-sex marriage bans in Michigan, Tennessee, Kentucky and Ohio. In each of these states, a judge has ruled in favor of same-sex marriage, though all rulings have been appealed.
    The Midwest states are part of an explosive litigation movement in which same-sex couples nationwide are fighting for the right to marry, or to have their existing marriages legally recognized. More than 75 lawsuits challenging gay marriage bans are pending in 32 states. Since December, courts have ruled in favor of same-sex marriage in 29 cases, with those victories now on appeal.Michigan's case is in that category and ultimately could go before the U.S. Supreme Court, which has not yet issued a definitive ruling on same-sex marriage.
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    TOMORROW: Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals to Hear Arguments in Six Marriage Cases from Four States | Human Rights Campaign

    Good luck! (though they probably don't need it)
    Hopefully this goes just like the other rulings and equal rights win again.
    Knocking on SCOTUS's door, I wonder if it will be let in or they will simply decide the lower courts did a good enough job.
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    Re: 4 states face gay marriage showdown in Cincinnati

    Maybe it is time our government(s) stop defining or acknowledging marriage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Maybe it is time our government(s) stop defining or acknowledging marriage.
    Won't happen. The majority of the Dems and Reps in congress don't want the government to get out of marriage. If they did, there would be SOME sign of a bill to support that move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Maybe it is time our government(s) stop defining or acknowledging marriage.
    government can never stop protecting contracts, I have no idea why anybody even tries to suggest something so asinine.
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    Re: 4 states face gay marriage showdown in Cincinnati

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Won't happen. The majority of the Dems and Reps in congress don't want the government to get out of marriage. If they did, there would be SOME sign of a bill to support that move.
    The government shouldn't get out of "marriage." It's a standardized set of legal rights and obligations that grease all kinds of economic and legal wheels and make what could be difficult in many cases far easier to deal with. Couples could get MOST of the same legal benefits through a series of contracts, drawn up by a lawyer or team of them, but they wouldn't be uniform, and creditors and hospitals and courts would have to look at each contract to see the terms. As is, there is a standard "contract" that people sign when they get married and it includes what might take a couple hundred legal pages of rights and obligations to outline, and everyone knows what those are, and only needs to look at the actual "contract" where there's been a pre-nuptial or other arrangement between the married couple that changes the standard marriage "contract."

    It wouldn't do any good, except then there would be no gay "marriage" to recognize, and would do a lot of harm. So that's why most people aren't in favor of eliminating a government recognition of marriage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    The government shouldn't get out of "marriage." It's a standardized set of legal rights and obligations that grease all kinds of economic and legal wheels and make what could be difficult in many cases far easier to deal with. Couples could get MOST of the same legal benefits through a series of contracts, drawn up by a lawyer or team of them, but they wouldn't be uniform, and creditors and hospitals and courts would have to look at each contract to see the terms. As is, there is a standard "contract" that people sign when they get married and it includes what might take a couple hundred legal pages of rights and obligations to outline, and everyone knows what those are, and only needs to look at the actual "contract" where there's been a pre-nuptial or other arrangement between the married couple that changes the standard

    marriage "contract."

    It wouldn't do any good, except then there would be no gay "marriage" to recognize, and would do a lot of harm. So that's why most people aren't in favor of eliminating a government recognition of marriage.
    It has absolutely nothing to do with "rights"......It has to do with taxes and aristocratic nonsense.

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    Re: 4 states face gay marriage showdown in Cincinnati

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    It has absolutely nothing to do with "rights"......It has to do with taxes and aristocratic nonsense.
    So is that why you got married for those reasons? I don't think so. So why do you assume the majority do?

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    Re: 4 states face gay marriage showdown in Cincinnati

    This is probably the case with the best chance of coming back with a negative verdict, though one of the Bush-appointed judges previously ruled in favor of Obamacare, so that is not certain either.
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    Monkey D Dragon!!!
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    Re: 4 states face gay marriage showdown in Cincinnati

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    government can never stop protecting contracts, I have no idea why anybody even tries to suggest something so asinine.
    The federal government can indeed stop adding benefits onto state contracts. That is what is being proposed.

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