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    Re: 4 states face gay marriage showdown in Cincinnati

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    The only straight people I see doing that nonsense are teenagers or drunk folk in bars...

    I'm sorry but some of the gay activists can put on a pseudo-porno show..... With the kids I just laugh and say to myself "I remember when I was 16" but homosexuals/lesbians making out as adults in public.... That is a big WTF to me - as it would be for a straight couple.. I view their public affection as a political statement.

    Trust me I would shake my head at a straight couple getting fond in public - and I'm far from a prude.

    Don't get me wrong, kisses are fine - they're wonderful but the whole ass grabbing and obvious tongue nonsense ..... It's just not cool and certainly not adult behavior straight or gay...
    In Chicago metro area you dont see major straight PDAs in public? Of more than teens? I call BS. you just dont notice or care.

    Just IMO but I've been there too.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: 4 states face gay marriage showdown in Cincinnati

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I cannot sign any contract to prevent me from being forced to testify against a spouse, except a marriage contract. I cannot exempt you from an estate tax upon my death, I can only do that with a spouse that the state chooses to recognize.
    That is what you believe not what reality is.....

    You want to talk about prenuptial agreements?

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    Re: 4 states face gay marriage showdown in Cincinnati

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    In Chicago metro area you dont see major straight PDAs in public? Of more than teens? I call BS. you just dont notice or care.

    Just IMO but I've been there too.
    What do you mean by PDA?

    You're right tho - I see a lot that I don't care about because I've been trained to either ignore it or am desensitized to it.

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    Re: 4 states face gay marriage showdown in Cincinnati

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    So the people/society...and their needs and desires....in those 50 states are frozen, set in stone?

    Apparently not...since it has changed in the past and many many desire it to be changed again (changes: polygamy, interracial marriage, SSM)

    So to actually SERVE our society apparently it needs to remain somewhat flexible.
    Sorry but I disagree. What we have seen over the last 15 years is the will of the people completely usurped by judges. At some point, the battle has to be decided one way or the other and we need to be able to move forward, however that looks.

    Different opinions.

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    Re: 4 states face gay marriage showdown in Cincinnati

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    ..

    Furthermore it appears that gays get divorced twice as much as heterosexuals (or at least cant maintain a relationship as often).
    Sorry, you'll have to provide divorce data to prove your statement.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: 4 states face gay marriage showdown in Cincinnati

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Huh? They are both legal? But I think I know what you meant.

    Because race and gender have no material similarities concerning marriage. They ARE different matters to adjudicate.

    Next question.

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    And what is the basis for adjudicating them differently?
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: 4 states face gay marriage showdown in Cincinnati

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    No, men and women do not have equal access to marriage. I cannot marry a woman, not because I am heterosexual, but because I a woman, but a man can marry a woman. This is discrimination based on sex. This is unequal access to marriage based on my gender. It doesn't matter that men cannot marry men, but I can. That only shows that every single person is being treated unequally by the laws of marriage so long as same sex marriage bans exist within our laws.

    It is like saying that only women can hold a teaching license, not men, but only men can hold a license to practice medicine, not women, and saying that both have equal access to licensed career opportunities since both are restricted from being able to be licensed in a single career field.
    Yes. And that contract excludes a gender. It is indeed gender-based discrimination, as no criteria for having sex or particular attraction is defined in marriage contracts. Straight couples do not have to meet any such requirements...why should gays? It is based on them not being able to marry (enter into a contract) with the same gender.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: 4 states face gay marriage showdown in Cincinnati

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Sorry but I disagree. What we have seen over the last 15 years is the will of the people completely usurped by judges. At some point, the battle has to be decided one way or the other and we need to be able to move forward, however that looks.

    Different opinions.
    Yes very different and it's pretty obvious your way of thinking is losing ground every week.

    It's sad that you dont believe in actually seeing society grow and needing change to fairly accommodate its members. If you see anyway that straight people are being harmed by this change, please let me know. And 'being offended' is meaningless.
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    Re: 4 states face gay marriage showdown in Cincinnati

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    No it's not..... ANYONE can engage in a civil contract....

    Technically all marriage is contract.....


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    In states where SSM is illegal a MAN and another MAN cannot enter into that contract. The restriction is based on gender.
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    Re: 4 states face gay marriage showdown in Cincinnati

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    What do you mean by PDA?

    You're right tho - I see a lot that I don't care about because I've been trained to either ignore it or am desensitized to it.
    Public displays of affection.


    And I see blatant ones all the time for all ages, sizes, and shapes of opposite sex couples in public. Did so in Chic. metro area as well.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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