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America's Fed Up: Obama Approval Rating Hits All-Time Low, Poll Shows [W:256]

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http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/A_Politics/14643 AUGUST NBC-WSJ POLL.pdf

Two[FONT=proxima_nova_rgregular] words sum up the mood of the nation: Fed up.

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[FONT=proxima_nova_rgregular]Six in 10 Americans are dissatisfied with the state of the U.S. economy, more than 70 percent believe the country is headed in the wrong direction, and nearly 80 percent are down on the country’s political system, according to the latest NBC News / Wall Street Journal poll.

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http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/americas-fed-obama-approval-rating-hits-all-time-low-poll-n173271

We constantly hear in here how Obama is doing such a great job from the progressive members. How when we say that the polls are against him, we are just not taking our information from the right sources, or we don't know how to read the polls....Well, here is a poll from NBC for God's sake....In all areas it seems that American's of ALL stripes are just fed up with this liar in office....

Domestically - 40% approve, 60% disapprove
Foreign policy - 30% approve 70% disapprove
Right track/Wrong track - 22% approve, 71% disapprove.....

etc...

This is clearly a contender, if not the winner of the absolute worst President this country has ever had.
 
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/A_Politics/14643 AUGUST NBC-WSJ POLL.pdf



We constantly hear in here how Obama is doing such a great job from the progressive members. How when we say that the polls are against him, we are just not taking our information from the right sources, or we don't know how to read the polls....Well, here is a poll from NBC for God's sake....In all areas it seems that American's of ALL stripes are just fed up with this liar in office....

Domestically - 40% approve, 60% disapprove
Foreign policy - 30% approve 70% disapprove
Right track/Wrong track - 22% approve, 71% disapprove.....

etc...

This is clearly a contender, if not the winner of the absolute worst President this country has ever had.
A Couple of things.

#1 the question for the Right Track/Wrong track was asked:

All in all, do you think things in the nation are generally headed in the right direction, or do you feel things
are off on the wrong track?

That INCLUDES Congress in that as well, NOT just the President.

#2 The question about Obama you left out:

In general, do you approve or disapprove of the job Barack Obama is doing as president?

Approve.....40%
Disapprove...54%
Not Sure....6%

These numbers go along with his approval rating which is about what Bush's around this time. Nice try, but hardly the worst President this country has ever had. I will say he is a bad president but not the worst president.

Nice try on cherry picking there.
 
Americans were fed up with Bush by this time, and he exited the WH with a 22% approval rating!!

:lamo
 
Republicans

ABC News/Washington Post Poll. July 30-Aug. 3, 2014. N=1,029 adults nationwide. Margin of error ± 3.5.

"Overall, do you have a favorable or unfavorable impression of the Republican Party?"

7/30 - 8/3/14

Favorable 35
Unfavorable 60
Unsure 5

The GOP is the worst political party the US has ever had
 
I didn't think the kool aid drinkers would reference Bush until at least the 5th post. Man you guys have really stepped up your game!

:applaud:applaud:applaud:applaud
 
I didn't think the kool aid drinkers would reference Bush until at least the 5th post. Man you guys have really stepped up your game!

:applaud:applaud:applaud:applaud

Yes, when someone compares the president to all the other presidents that came before him, it is inappropriate to mention a president that came before him
 
Who cares if he's the worst president in history. For this time in history when we need a strong effective leader, he's horrible. Absolutely.
 
Yes, when someone compares the president to all the other presidents that came before him, it is inappropriate to mention a president that came before him

Sure if you say so. Thanks for shedding some light on this subject with your in depth analysis.
 
Yes, when someone compares the president to all the other presidents that came before him, it is inappropriate to mention a president that came before him

Not if it's Bush, you should know better by now.

I can't wait for 2017 when the Republican President starts doing things and it's all "But..but, Obama!" Basically because I want to start throwing back the "He's not President anymore." Though I suspect that some posters will magically disappear in 2017.
 
This is clearly a contender, if not the winner of the absolute worst President this country has ever had.

Not even close to a contender if you go back to the 1800s. Unfortunately, most cons seem to forget that history didn't start with Jimmy Carter.
 
I didn't think the kool aid drinkers would reference Bush until at least the 5th post. Man you guys have really stepped up your game!

:applaud:applaud:applaud:applaud

When you're trying to say Obama is the worst president ever and using polls to justify it, it is important to compare others as well. Or do you think we should all just look at one poll and judge everything based on that poll?
 
Who cares if he's the worst president in history. For this time in history when we need a strong effective leader, he's horrible. Absolutely.

This is my thought as well. Bush was a horrible president and Obama is as well. The fact is the man we have right now is doing a horrible job as far as I'm concerned.
 
A Couple of things.

#1 the question for the Right Track/Wrong track was asked:



That INCLUDES Congress in that as well, NOT just the President.

I understand that, and Congress as a whole gets abysmal marks at only 14% approval. That includes BOTH parties. But, I would say, at least from my perspective, that much of this is media driven, and when you have most (not all) media outlets generally running cover, softballing, or not pressing the current administration, or party in control for the truth, then the opposition only has one road to go in stopping what they think is wrong for the country.

#2 The question about Obama you left out:


These numbers go along with his approval rating which is about what Bush's around this time. Nice try, but hardly the worst President this country has ever had. I will say he is a bad president but not the worst president.

Nice try on cherry picking there.

Not cherry picking anything. I posted the internals, which I might add is a far sight more than most progressives in here when they want to use a single poll to beat up on their political opponents in here...With that said, this is NOT good. I note that the discussion is starting off with not what Obama, and demo's are doing wrong, but rather deflection to 'blame Bush', or claims of cherry picking rather than discussing why it is that the most known supporter of Obama, and demo's in the media, NBC, is releasing numbers they just can't spin easily.
 
When you're trying to say Obama is the worst president ever and using polls to justify it, it is important to compare others as well. Or do you think we should all just look at one poll and judge everything based on that poll?

That's fine, as long as you don't say the "B-word."
 
Not even close to a contender if you go back to the 1800s. Unfortunately, most cons seem to forget that history didn't start with Jimmy Carter.

Without looking it up on any website, in any book, or using any reference material whatsoever, tell me, how bad was Warren Harding and why? How about how bad Coolidge was and why?

Point being politics is about the here and now - 99% of living people were not alive when Coolidge was President nor Hoover. A minority of young people can barely name the current President and Vice President. Hoover = a dam you see. In the last 40 years, yes Carter has the bottom of the barrel as anyone born in the 1950's and 1960's (The baby boomers) know and lived through Carter. They don't have experience with Hoover, Roosevelt, Truman etc.
 
Yes, when someone compares the president to all the other presidents that came before him, it is inappropriate to mention a president that came before him

That's a fair point Sangha, and Bush did have similar polling. But I would venture a guess not in as broad a swath of separate categories as Obama....
 
Without looking it up on any website, in any book, or using any reference material whatsoever, tell me, how bad was Warren Harding and why? How about how bad Coolidge was and why?

Point being politics is about the here and now - 99% of living people were not alive when Coolidge was President nor Hoover. A minority of young people can barely name the current President and Vice President. Hoover = a dam you see. In the last 40 years, yes Carter has the bottom of the barrel as anyone born in the 1950's and 1960's (The baby boomers) know and lived through Carter. They don't have experience with Hoover, Roosevelt, Truman etc.

Without using what I've learned about Harding or Andrew Johnson, no. But just because a person can't remember anyone before Nixon doesn't mean none of that happened.
 
Not if it's Bush, you should know better by now.

I can't wait for 2017 when the Republican President starts doing things and it's all "But..but, Obama!" Basically because I want to start throwing back the "He's not President anymore." Though I suspect that some posters will magically disappear in 2017.

So you're conceding the Presidency in 2016 already eh? Thanks.
 
I understand that, and Congress as a whole gets abysmal marks at only 14% approval. That includes BOTH parties. But, I would say, at least from my perspective, that much of this is media driven, and when you have most (not all) media outlets generally running cover, softballing, or not pressing the current administration, or party in control for the truth, then the opposition only has one road to go in stopping what they think is wrong for the country.

The whole media thing I could have believed in the early 2000s and before, but that excuse cannot be used now. There are internet sites, radio, satellite, etc. People CAN be informed and they choose not to. That is not the media's fault, that is the people's fault.

Not cherry picking anything. I posted the internals, which I might add is a far sight more than most progressives in here when they want to use a single poll to beat up on their political opponents in here...With that said, this is NOT good. I note that the discussion is starting off with not what Obama, and demo's are doing wrong, but rather deflection to 'blame Bush', or claims of cherry picking rather than discussing why it is that the most known supporter of Obama, and demo's in the media, NBC, is releasing numbers they just can't spin easily.

Cherry picking only in the sense that the right track/wrong track in your quote appeared to be attributed to Obama only (you didn't mention the whole question or that it included congress). If that wasn't your intent intentionally I withdraw the cherry picking comment.

I agree its not good. It hasn't been good for going on 14 years now which includes the presidents and congresses along with that. I'm not on the "blame Bush" waggon, there is PLENTY of blame to go around for both the Reps and Dems.

Both sides have done it. When Bush was in office, many on the right were blaming Clinton or that the Left wasn't patriotically support Bush in Iraq. With Obama it is the same thing with the left, they blamed Bush for many things even 6 years into it.

However, what I still find most damaging is that people STILL don't realize that the Dem/Reps have let us down and they continue to support them.
 
Without using what I've learned about Harding or Andrew Johnson, no. But just because a person can't remember anyone before Nixon doesn't mean none of that happened.

Well, when we hear that a question can't be asked of a WH staffer because that scandal happened a whole two years ago, then what exactly do you expect?
 
When you're trying to say Obama is the worst president ever and using polls to justify it, it is important to compare others as well. Or do you think we should all just look at one poll and judge everything based on that poll?

:spin::donkeyfla:nahnah::giggle1:
 
The whole media thing I could have believed in the early 2000s and before, but that excuse cannot be used now. There are internet sites, radio, satellite, etc. People CAN be informed and they choose not to. That is not the media's fault, that is the people's fault.



Cherry picking only in the sense that the right track/wrong track in your quote appeared to be attributed to Obama only (you didn't mention the whole question or that it included congress). If that wasn't your intent intentionally I withdraw the cherry picking comment.

I agree its not good. It hasn't been good for going on 14 years now which includes the presidents and congresses along with that. I'm not on the "blame Bush" waggon, there is PLENTY of blame to go around for both the Reps and Dems.

Both sides have done it. When Bush was in office, many on the right were blaming Clinton or that the Left wasn't patriotically support Bush in Iraq. With Obama it is the same thing with the left, they blamed Bush for many things even 6 years into it.

However, what I still find most damaging is that people STILL don't realize that the Dem/Reps have let us down and they continue to support them.


Thank you....On that I think we can agree.
 
Without using what I've learned about Harding or Andrew Johnson, no. But just because a person can't remember anyone before Nixon doesn't mean none of that happened.

You're right, it can't be discounted historically, however, outside a historical context it's not relevant to people's lives today.
 
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