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    re: America's Fed Up: Obama Approval Rating Hits All-Time Low, Poll Shows [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, that is a bit of a stretch....I will concede that March, April of 2006 Bush fell to as low as 32% while Obama stayed or climbed this March, April to near 47%. But at this point, July, August Bush had climbed to 39%, and Obama is now at 40% according to NBC....I'd say that is pretty close.
    IMO, limiting your bush* # to "at this point" is (possibly unintentional) cherry picking. The OP says Obama is the worst "ever"; not "at this point"
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    re: America's Fed Up: Obama Approval Rating Hits All-Time Low, Poll Shows [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Never has a lesser man sat in that seat. That became painfully obvious a long time ago.
    I'll even go one further...I think it is a shame what Obama has done to the chance that another Black candidate gets a chance to be President in our lifetime....
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    re: America's Fed Up: Obama Approval Rating Hits All-Time Low, Poll Shows [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Would it help if we said "in modern time"?
    Modern time I'm still flipping between Bush and Obama. At this rate Obama will be the worst IMO by the end of his term though.

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    re: America's Fed Up: Obama Approval Rating Hits All-Time Low, Poll Shows [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    IMO, limiting your bush* # to "at this point" is (possibly unintentional) cherry picking. The OP says Obama is the worst "ever"; not "at this point"
    Well, you are entitled to your opinion, and maybe I could have used better terminology rather than "worst ever", to something like 'modern time' or 'out of the recent presidents' etc.....But the fact remains that Obama's numbers here across the board are horrible, and damage to future democrat candidates, or even dare I say future democrat black candidates is tremendous.
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    re: America's Fed Up: Obama Approval Rating Hits All-Time Low, Poll Shows [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Modern time I'm still flipping between Bush and Obama. At this rate Obama will be the worst IMO by the end of his term though.
    Thank you....I don't know why the 'like' option is not showing up....but I'll give you credit TNE...You are honest enough, and have the courage to speak this truth....respect.
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    re: America's Fed Up: Obama Approval Rating Hits All-Time Low, Poll Shows [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, you are entitled to your opinion, and maybe I could have used better terminology rather than "worst ever", to something like 'modern time' or 'out of the recent presidents' etc.....But the fact remains that Obama's numbers here across the board are horrible, and damage to future democrat candidates, or even dare I say future democrat black candidates is tremendous.
    Even those alternate phrasings leaves bush* in a worse position unless you think it's intellectually sound to take one presidents worst rating while not taking another presidents' worst rating.
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    re: America's Fed Up: Obama Approval Rating Hits All-Time Low, Poll Shows [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Even those alternate phrasings leaves bush* in a worse position unless you think it's intellectually sound to take one presidents worst rating while not taking another presidents' worst rating.
    Here's the thing though sangha. Let's just say for whatever reason when Obama finishes his term and he isn't the worst president in modern times and is instead the second worst president of our time. Does that REALLY sound like something to boast about? I mean, it is really sad that instead of realizing we have had two HORRIBLE presidents we have a contest going over who was worst when BOTH really suck overall.

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    re: America's Fed Up: Obama Approval Rating Hits All-Time Low, Poll Shows [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Even those alternate phrasings leaves bush* in a worse position unless you think it's intellectually sound to take one presidents worst rating while not taking another presidents' worst rating.
    Presidencies are moving scales....A President can start out horribly and get much better, or start out great, and steadily slide to the worst....taking the snapshot of the worst month per se, and comparing that with the worst month of this president is absolutely cherry picking....Since polls are done monthly it is correct to look at this month in Obama's term and compare it to (in your case you want to use Bush) in the same month during the time period....At that time, Bush was at 39%, and now Obama is at 40% .... Pretty comparable if you ask me.
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    re: America's Fed Up: Obama Approval Rating Hits All-Time Low, Poll Shows [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    So I see you cannot refute ANYTHING I said and resort to childish emoticon replies instead. And you complain about others not giving in depth analysis.

    Answer me this, how do you proclaim Obama is the worst president ever WITHOUT comparing other presidents? Or you can just run away or continue posting childish things.
    Answer me this, maybe you should brush up on your reading comprehension skills because I never claimed any such thing. Your Kool aid goggles are clouding your vision. Please oh please post this claim I made. I would say I'll hold my breath, but I would pass out if I did. Oh and the childish emoticons? Do you mean something similar to the one you used???
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    re: America's Fed Up: Obama Approval Rating Hits All-Time Low, Poll Shows [W:256]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Without looking it up on any website, in any book, or using any reference material whatsoever, tell me, how bad was Warren Harding and why? How about how bad Coolidge was and why?

    Point being politics is about the here and now - 99% of living people were not alive when Coolidge was President nor Hoover. A minority of young people can barely name the current President and Vice President. Hoover = a dam you see. In the last 40 years, yes Carter has the bottom of the barrel as anyone born in the 1950's and 1960's (The baby boomers) know and lived through Carter. They don't have experience with Hoover, Roosevelt, Truman etc.
    Most young people can't name a previous President other than Washington, Lincoln & Kennedy.

    They know Clinton, GW Bush & Obama. That's about it.

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